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Fascist and Third Position Books FashBO##yWPIHb 08/28/2019 (Wed) 22:41:41 ID: 024e41 No.5 [Reply] [Last]
Post good works that you've read and ask for recommendations ITT.

The list below only consists of works that I myself have personally read. If anybody can vouch for any other good works, let me know!

BASIC READING LIST
National Socialism (NSDAP):

>Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
There are many editions of this book, of course. The best are Thomas Dalton’s new translation and of course Stalag. I’ve also read Manheim and didn’t think it was too bad, but it’s a little too wordy and is translated by a Jew
>Zweites Buch by Adolf Hitler
>The Program of the NSDAP by Gottfried Feder
>The Manifesto for the Breaking of Interest Slavery by Gottfried Feder

Black Front / Strasserism:
>German Tomorrow by Dr. Otto Strasser
>Deutschlands Erneuerung by Dr. Otto Strasser (in German only)

Iron Guard / Romanian Fascism:
>For my Legionaries by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu

British Union of Fascists (BUF):
>Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered by Oswald Mosley
>Tomorrow We Live by Oswald Mosley
>My Life by Oswald Mosley
>Fascism v. Jewry by William Joyce
>National Socialism Now by William Joyce
>The Coming Corporate State by A. Raven Thompson

Italian Fascism:
>Origins and Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
>CasaPound Italia platform: http://www.casapounditalia.org/p/who-we-are.html

JSTOR Articles I've read on more obscure groups with little available material in English:
>Ação Integralista Brasileira: Fascism in Brazil, 1932-1938 by Stanley E. Hilton
>Integralism and the Brazilian Catholic Church by Margaret Todaro Williams
>The Chilean Movimiento Nacional Socialista, the German-Chilean Community, and the Third Reich, 1932-1939: Myth and Reality by Marcus Klein
>Nazism in Chile: A Particular Type of Fascism in South America by Jaime Antonio Etchepare and Hamish L. Stewart
>A Case of Non-European Fascism: Chilean National Socialism in the 1930s by Mario Sznajder
>Fascism and Sinarquismo: Popular Nationalisms Against the Mexican Revolution by Albert L. Michaels

Cultured Thug is also a good YouTube channel for overviews of fascist literature:
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/cultured_thug/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFVf_ACP5I8VF5VsmSDQ8tQ

Helpful Links:
https://sci-hub.tw/
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
https://archive.org/
https://www.bitchute.com/cultured_thug/
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>>4403 Look around on libgen.is, there is a lot of good stuff by Yukio Mishima there. Weirdly enough I don't think I see anything from his Sea of Fertility in there. I do see stuff which I've heard people say is good though like Sun and Steel, The Way of the Samurai and Death in Midsummer and Other Stories. The last one I listed is worth checking out for Patriotism alone, I loved that one. I plan to come back to the rest of the book in the future but right now I'm working my way slowly through Spring Snow. https://libgen.is/search.php?req=yukio+mishima&open=0&res=25&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def
Mussolini's Intellectuals by James A Gregor Hurrah for the Blackshirts by Martin Pugh A History of Fascism by Stanley Payne
is Carl Schmitt's books considered canon for fascism?
>>4921 Some are like Crisis of Parlimentary Democracy.

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Rules / Moderation / Request / Meta Blackshirt 08/28/2019 (Wed) 22:34:09 ID: b3b0b3 No.1 [Reply] [Last]
WELCOME TO /FASCIST/, PLEASE READ RULES BEFORE POSTING Our bunkers: https://fatpeople.lol/fascist/index.html (primary) https://neinchan.com/fascist/catalog.html Welcome to the new location of /fascist/ on JulayWorld! /fascist/ is a board for discussion of fascism in its various manifestations and, in a more general sense, third-position ideology (e.g. Strasserism, etc) and positions that fall outside of the /pol/ - /leftypol/ dichotomy. Though this board is centered around the discussion of fascist movements, leaders and ideology, everybody is permitted to post here regardless of political beliefs, as long as they debate in good faith. Non-fascists and opposing beliefs of all kinds are welcome as long as they respect the rules of this board! This thread will also serve as a thread for requests to moderation, banners and general bitching BOARD RULES 1. Global rules apply 2. No spam, no flooding, serial double- / triple-posting in the same thread within a short period of time will result in a short ban 3. No fedposting* 4. No avatarfagging without reason 5. No pornography (non-sexualized nudity permitted) 6. Gore should be spoiled and relevant to the topic if posted 7. No self-advertising outside of specifically designated threads. No Disc.ord shilling, period. 8. Threads with basic questions not conductive to discussion should go in the QTDDTOT >>9

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>>4980 It’s nothing that I’ve done. The only reason you’d ever have to solve a captcha here on /fascist/ would be if more than three or four threads had been posted in an hour. I’ve noticed I’ve been getting periodic captchas on other boards as well, it must be some sort of new thing site-wide. I’ll double check settings here though.
>>4982 Kek I actually got a captcha myself
>>4983 Some retard was spamming /cow/ and /meta/ from a bunch of proxies, this was the most effective way of stopping it.
>>4983 Robi activated site wide captcha after spam of 1750 post under 5min by dolphin nigger aka luke.
>>4986 >>4985 Ah, that makes sense. I’m sure it won’t last long, just like how the ban of image-posting for Tor only lasted like a week

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads FashBO##yWPIHb 08/28/2019 (Wed) 22:55:22 ID: 5b336c No.9 [Reply] [Last]
Self-explanatory. If you have a one-liner question won't generate much discussion and isn't related to moderation or requests, post it here.
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Was Metaxas a fascist? If not did greece have any notable fascists? What were his policies on stuff like the JQ? Also is Golden Dawn legit? It's hard to find reliable information on the state of greece.
>>4868 >Also is Golden Dawn legit? They appear to be one of the most serious National Socialist parties out there today. The real shame is though that they have recently lost every single seat that they held in the Hellenic Parliament. They had held nearly twenty since the 2015 election. I wonder what happened. I’d certainly keep an eye on them though. Outside of Greece though look at the Slovakia thread, there is a legitimate fascist party fluctuating between second and third place in the national polls. Election soon
>>4870 >I wonder what happened. As far as I remember they jailed and/or threw out some of the elected members for no good reason, because that's how (((democracy))) works. As corrupt as Greece is it would come to no surprise that they cheat elections. It would be dumb to put it past any other government at this point seeing how Jewish and masonic the right side neo-cohens and leftists are on the same team. People are suffering in Greece economically, they have taxes forced down their throats and even previously wealthy people have to sell off their cars they worked hard for, especially the expensive ones for peanuts so that these fucking criminals can continue raping their country dry for Jew money. Remember that even though these people in our "demo"-cracies put up a good show for us to appear different they're essentially all the same, it's simply a stage act, but they all coincidentally tip toe the judeomasonic (((party line))) in the end bringing us a net negative, it's not coincidence. It's safe to say looking at the timetable of the one-direction monotonous things that have happened after WW2. Not even one European or white country for that matter has even done something as simple closing their fucking borders or have done something different. We're on a sinking ship and this fucking scum are playing their card-game and laughing, drinking the most expensive champagne when not helping the boat sink faster and telling us its no big deal we're sinking. And the rest of us many confused, have to struggle to get out of the place if they're not paralyzed by lies. That's all it is.
9chan's quality is rapidly declining, right now it almost looks like 4/pol/, I advise removing the refuge board from there to prevent these people from finding this place too
>>4931 I've been meaning on fucking around with what the exact bunker-plan sometime soon. Nein seems to get a ton of annoying spam, bots and CP-posting, especially recently. The other bunker we have, that one on the fatpeople.lol site or whatever it was called I might dump as well. I found that site to be very poorly designed. I'd rather have to move to somewhere user-friendly like this place if we had to. I'll let people know if I make any changes.

Different types of Fascism Blackshirt 02/22/2020 (Sat) 22:58:09 ID: 549b5f No.4993 [Reply] [Last]
So we all know about the basic types of fascism like National Socialism and Italian Fascism, and we all likely know about at least one or two other types, but due to the nationalist and conditional nature of the ideology there is a near infinite variety. So anon, tell us about the form of fascism you subscribe to and its basic tenants.
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>>4998 >Strasserism I'd say it falls under the umbrella of fascism in many ways, though it is more based on the masses and has more democratic elements. Otto Strasser himself too was remarkably cucked on the Jews for someone who was once part of the NSDAP. Ultimately I think it was good that they got purged. I once considered myself a Strasserist but now I have gone far beyond that into more elitist politicals and National Socialism.
>>5012 Yeah I'd consider Strasserism an offshoot of fascism. A variation of fascism that is more democratic and more socialistic than other variations. In this sense it is similar to the BUF.
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>>5023 Funny, I was thinking how it was somewhat similar to the BUF as well, though Strasser wanted to further with ideas of eliminating private property, of course.
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Say what you will about Mosley, he was a pretty effective orator.
>>5032 >he was a pretty effective orator. I definitely can't deny that. Apart from Hitler he is one of the best that I've heard. If you have any more Mosley speeches feel free to drop them, since all the ones I used to have in playlists on Jewtube have been shoah'd

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/rwg/ - Race War General Blackshirt 10/26/2019 (Sat) 16:23:40 No.575 [Reply] [Last]
USING TOR OR SIMILAR MEASURES IS ADVISED IN THIS THREAD This thread for the discussion of pro-white resistance from an onlookers perspective and especially people such as Anders Behring Breivik, Brenton Tarrant and the various copycats that we've seen since March. Are they doing what has to be done? Is it more harmful than helpful? Are they all false flags? Discuss! This thread can also be used for dumping info following any more contemporary events. Do not post manifestos directly in this thread and anyone who is fedposting in an obvious manner or planning their own autistic actions will be permabanned. This thread will be be subject to heavier moderation against outsiders. HELPFUL LINKS (to be expanded) The Breivik Archive https://ia601002.us.archive.org/6/items/breivikarchive/
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>Muhammed B, a wounded survivor, described from his hospital bed how the gunman took careful aim at the victims in the Arena Bar & Cafe. >"Everyone he saw, he just shot them straight in the head. He laid down, then he fired at all of us. I hid behind a wall, and as I was moving to hide he shot me in the arm," he told a Turkish TV interviewer. >"It was a bloodbath... We were all lying on top of each other. The guy lying under me had a hole in his neck, he said 'I can't breathe, I can't feel my tongue'," Muhammad recalled through tears. He said he told the young man to recite a final prayer, which he did. ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL >Investigators say all the shisha bar victims were of immigrant origin - some were German nationals, while Turkey says at least five had Turkish citizenship. Several were reported to be ethnic Kurds. https://archive.fo/0Fnps
>>4947 >Muhammad B I assume Muhammad A got removed.
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Christchurch terror attacks: Brenton Tarrant's case back in court today >The case of the man accused of the Christchurch mosque attacks is due back in court this morning. >The nature of today's pre-trial application in the High Court at Christchurch is currently suppressed by Justice Mander. >Unlike many of his previous hearings, the accused man will not be in court, either in person or via audio visual link, something he requested himself. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410182/christchurch-terror-attacks-brenton-tarrant-s-case-back-in-court-today https://archive.fo/CSPze

Individual Fascism Blackshirt 02/22/2020 (Sat) 22:59:04 ID: a706b3 No.4994 [Reply] [Last]
There has being an idea floating around my heat lately. Manny cultures and religions speak of an ideal man, someone above the common and mundane folk who we should all strive to be like >Übermensch >Christ >Samurai >Quetzalcóatl >Buddha These are all titles –usually related to a single individual– that speak of an elevated being in human form, sometimes a demi-God or a proper God who lives among humans, usually order to teach others. These are also all said to come back one day. I call myself a Christian, but my interpretation of « The second coming of Christ » does not mean that Jesus Christ himself will come down from the heavens, but instead that we all will become humans worthy of the « Christ » title. Nietzsche also formulated the idea of Der Übermensch as something us humans should work towards to. It is my interpretation that Fascism's main mission is not to bring vulgar economic reforms or to restructure the State to fit collectivizing theories; but to bring this type of human back into the world, to install something to the individual, from the every-day man who runs the local bakery to the leader of the nation, which would then cascade up to the family, community, state and nation. Yes, this may need political, social and economic reforms –we live in a mundane world after all, we are subjected to mundane systems–, but I am not immediately interested in how to reach this state of being, but what is this state. So I make this thread with the non-pretentious, non-controversial and simple task of Defining the ideal man; The Fascist Man. Only after we define it we can start talking about how can we get there >What is the fascism man >What values define him >What examples can we find to compare from
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>Individual Fascism Contemporary? As of now or future? Or do you mean being one as an individual? To better others you must first better yourself. Leading by example. Being able to inspire. Show confidence bravery and strength and hope to others, you must be hard but forgiving, devoid of weakness and no erring of your resolve there will be an aura about you that really shows there will be no doubt. Maybe you can remember having met such people yourself, they may not have realized their potential. For most people I think there is a limit, there is such a thing as natural born leaders as there are thinkers and creators, that's why the rarity of reaching such a state and the tremendous task it can be is why we do not see such people very often simply because they have not realized them, but they do exist, they do appear, and they can be made, by themselves. It is by no means impossible. The only thing that prevents most people from becoming this is mostly fear of failure that prevents realization and such pettiness must be thrown out the window in order to become great. As in the same way how to become successful you will have to take risks, follow right course off action and to fulfill your task without hesitation, you will have to be dedicated, never having stopped over a failure, keep pounding and and not stop until the desired goal is achieved. In a real Nationalist society there is no such thing as individualism except what is found naturally and reasonably, such as within the natural family unit, which includes property, rights and such, the person himself is an individual and he chooses where to go in life and what do with it. However what ultimately should be done is for the people, and vice versa for the state; and no one will be allowed to disagree with that, only there is the true totalitarian aspect of National Socialism. Regardless our types of ideology shouldn't be conflated with the same individualist destruction that contaminated this entire modern world that has led us to the brink of destruction. Because of this we must have, and seek unity, because it is only as a highly motivated collective/group can we bring about the changes we want and truly get a great society. And as far as the other races are concerned they should seek out the same. Fascism itself definitely works, but is simple and in some ways displays crude societal idealism to the state that is, not really powerful in the sense that it does not wholly unite people and state in a true sense but leads populace to the state alone, this is not enough to stand a test of time, it is not well thought out enough in my opinion. And as we know racial homogeneity ensures compatibility and is key to have a stable society, as in people tend to think alike. But to do things for state alone is erroneous thinking, It's an understatement to say that idealism an oversimplification of human life more prone to corruption. What is a leader if he loves the state but not the people? The only reason we have a society in the first place because we agree as a people to perpetuate it, the state does not exist on it's own head, ultimately it is the body(the people) who are more important and what holds the head and they work in unity to fulfill goals. That's why I'm a National Socialist. Collectivism is strength, and meritocracy is the answer, systematic individualism eventually only beckons frailty, human error, greed and destruction as it does today, we cannot rely on the individual too much or the state too much, and there is definitely a balance but it will have to be ruled by the best and brightest which means Top-down, where naturally the greatest people will find themselves, and none who have agreed to the basic foundational law and duty of such a society will be prevented from aspiring. This is can also be found in nature, in one way or another. And it does work to form a cohesive, powerful group. Yes naturally there will be disparity in humans but we should do what we can to nurture and lift the "lowest" of our people up, they should have as much merit and prospects as the head of state given that they are willing to work for it and agree to the foundational laws. In any system there will be classes, it is unavoidable, but it in a National Socialist state it does not matter whether a person works with their hands or head, they work for society in their own way and are truly equally useful in the machinery, in such a society where people are not overlooked most people would be perfectly fine in doing their jobs and would be content in doing so, everyone regardless of their stature, wealth, class will be tested and there will be civil service for youth to make sure of this unity without exemptions to do the same work for a period, and it will not matter if you were born rich or not. The same meritocratic standard will be expected of everyone regardless. Socially in a way achieving perfection or high quality in humans or society are perpetual and cyclical. From the collective comes a Great individual, and nurtured enough from this great individual there comes a stronger collective, repeat enough times and there within lies the answer; unhindered in such a state naturally after a frame of time it is inevitable the real almost unbreakable human strength of the greatest people rise, call them Herrenvolk or Übermensch. Comparatively the reverse of this is unnatural creates decay, and finally given enough time the Subhuman. Which is what we see attempted today in the degradation efforts done by Jews and their collaborators of our great peoples under various unnatural anti-human doctrines like Communism, Marxism, Capitalism and Cultural Marxism.
>>5019 >What I want is to create a list of axions which when applied to any culture it would cascade into an ideal individual for each culture. It’d be interesting to conduct a comparison of, say, a dozen different value systems or traditions from different places and to see what common values we can uncover – though that is significantly more work than it would first appear to be. To propose something to look into and consider though, look at the Confucian idea of the Junzi – the superior person or gentlemen, which is that philosophy’s conception of the ideal man. The Junzi attains “ren” (a kind of innate humanness or benevolence) through a process of self-cultivation, with the roots of the virtuous character being in filial love and fraternal respect. The Junzi is the moral exemplar to be followed by others, and great emphasis is placed on the virtuous qualities of leadership, and how the virtuous man is like the wind, and the little people like grass, the grass can’t help but bend under its influence. It’s also more of an inner disposition than someone merely following “rules” to appear a certain way, at least ideally. It’s no Buddha or Jesus but it’s certainly something to look into. It’s always kind of vague though, but we can get a good idea of what it means through the philosophy’s emphasis on family, the relation of the self to others (heavily communitarian values), the idea of a harmonious society and self-cultivation. I’ve been meaning to make a communitarian thread soon..
>>5026 >Junzi Another one to the list, while the idea of the « Ideal man » is a no-brainer it sure seems more common than expected. > It’s also more of an inner disposition than someone merely following “rules” to appear a certain way, at least ideally. That is another aspect, someone who is able to understand rules and follows them because he understands them, but is willing to break them in some cases >>5025 > there is such a thing as natural born leaders as there are thinkers and creators People come in all types, some made to be leaders, other follow. Manny fetishize the leader, seeing him as peak human, in actuality leaders —directorial positions—are people more fit for mental work, managers are split between mental and physical and workers are entirely physical. All are important and it is desirable for leaders to be rare, imagine a society made up exclusively of leaders, their minds would be wasted and manny are unfit for labour, in a professional kitchen you will find that cooks are usually more physical capable than the chef, chefs are usually slower that those he leads. So if we are to create blueprint for an ideal man we should not make it leader-specific.
The ideal fascist is simply the man who strives for the best for his people and his nation, and acts accordingly.
>>5027 >Manny fetishize the leader, seeing him as peak human In many ways the ideal leader is simultaneously the ideal man and peak human. Many ancient traditions have recognized the importance of the perfection of leadership, its need for a virtuous underpinning and how they can serve as a great example for all of society. We have already discussed the Junzi - a term which, while referring to an exemplary man, refers at its highest to a virtuous king, about whom it is said: Analects 12:19 <“Lead them with government and regulate them by punishments, and the people will evade them with no sense of shame. Lead them with virtue and regulate them by ritual, and they will acquire a sense of shame—and moreover, they will be orderly” Analects 2:1 <The Master said: 'the practice of government by means of virtue may be compared with the pole-star, which the multitudinous stars pay homage to while it stays in its place'. Analects 2:3 <“Lead them with government and regulate them by punishments, and the people will evade them with no sense of shame. Lead them with virtue and regulate them by ritual, and they will acquire a sense of shame—and moreover, they will be orderly” We can see similar ideas in the Bhagavad Gita: BG 3.21 - <Whatever action is performed by a great man, common men follow in his footsteps. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. Outside of texts like these, we can see this in practice with people like Adolf Hitler, whose self-discipline was often used to great effect in propaganda in the Third Reich. The leader is the most important figure in setting standards for the people, and anything less than perfection is detrimental to the nation. This is why the focus on them is often so heavy

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Blackshirt 02/10/2020 (Mon) 19:32:52 ID: 9de469 No.4544 [Reply] [Last]
What is the /fascist/ conception of ideal leadership? What would you advocate for in your country? I've noticed that this board tends to have significant leanings toward classical antiquity and have seen posters advocating here and there for some sort of monarchy, which can be surprising at first. >is the leader dependent on the consent of the people? >how is the leader chosen? >how is his successor chosen? >are there limits to his powers >can he be removed from office?
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>>4875 BY EXTRAORDINARY VIRTUE, I MEAN SO BREATH-TAKING AND MAGNIFICENT, SO INSPIRED AND VISIONARY, THAT IS SURPASSES REGULAR MERIT AND ENCOMPASSES A WHOLE OTHER WORLD Anyone could have merit in the sense that you say, "He does his job well, folks. Let's clap." That's not good enough. There needs to be an EXTRAORDINARY merit--or else people will grumble and contest--people will not like the monarchy/leadership in the same way. Remember the lines in Aristotle talking about an independent man alone--without society--he will die and no merit is enough--but with extraordinary virtue, this divine, awe-inspiring vision--that uplifts him to this kind of demi-god status. >But when a whole family or some individual, happens to be SO PRE-EMINENT in virtue [SO PRE-EMINENT] as to SURPASS ALL OTHERS, then, it is just that they should be the royal family supreme over all, or that this one citizen should be king of the whole nation." It needs to be so pre-eminent, so inspiring, and so great your mouth drops--it needs to be grand--and ordinary merit won't cut it--there's a reason that while Hitler had others, it was Hitler's vision and extraordinary character that inspired. Look at 1st pic related, isn't it breath-taking? This monarch is sitting on the clouds w/ nymphs. LOOK AT THE 2ND PICTURE Hitler looking over a city model--he was an artist, a man with surpassing visions and views, unchecked ambition that could only inspire things so pre-eminent and great. It's not that there was virtue or that it was just enough merit--but it was so pre-eminent and so EXTRAordinary than even merit itself. For a man alone, to be above and independent, must have this glory. That screencap about a man alone, an individual baby--dies in the woods, even with whatever small feat or merit--but with pre-eminent virtue and extraordinary ambition--surpasses. This 2nd picture might help break the point. Hitler was an artist and liked to paint buildings--it was like his own Versailles to build these cities and drape them with red swastika banners. Even in democratic countries with a kind of elected leader for only a small term--there is a White House, a kind of palace--because it is so natural to monarchy to embrace this kind of view. Russian Emperors would build cities up, like St. Petersburg. It's that kind of extraordinary and grandness that takes the cake. You're right to say it's not ordinary or something you naturally see on occasion--it is extraordinary, pre-eminent. >The proof that the state is a creation of nature and prior to the individual is that the individual, when isolated, is not self-sufficing; and therefore he is LIKE A PART in relation to the WHOLE >BUT he who is unable to live in a society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be a BEAST or a GOD >A social instinct is implanted in all men by nature, and yet HE who first founded the state was the greatest of benefactors.

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>>4727 you don't know how bad it can be
>>4877 It's funny you mention former swamp of St. Petersburg, the entire city was built on human bones from citizen slaves/serfs, aka indentured servants for the romanov family, hundreds of thousands died completely preventable deaths to build that city for Peter the "Great", Great for who exactly? The workers? No. What's eminent about that city? The people who built it were nothing to their royal slavedrivers. Russia as with other European countries people had no fucking rights and no social mobility, if you were a tailor, if you were a pig farmer or mason the feudalism nature of the system usually meant you would be working in these professions for life, a "not noble" enough birth was literally the cause lol, imagine that. You couldn't even obtain schooling those were limited to nobles, and if you were lucky enough to be granted a change profession you had to enter a guild/apprenticeship, which also meant indentured servitude to a master who after typically many years allowed your freedom due to proprietary methods but this was also a form of extreme social control. This continued until the late 1800's. The class society issue with monarchy is that while the people who are at the top are able to enjoy the finest and only most grand decadent palaces whereas common people would literally live in wooden hovels and entire families in cramped apartments, never having been to a palace, seen an artwork or anything grand in their entire lives, couldn't even read. Because the focus wasn't ever the people or race but it was always for X king's Empire. You have no idea how bad it was in Europe under the hundreds of years under these rulers for completely common people, who were from their actions you can read about, viewed with utter scorn by hereditary rule inbred maniacs they sold their own people out as slaves for hundreds of years. Their actions are the sole reason America was created in the first place and paved the way for a more free modern society. Only when the industrial revolution came about and countries started modernizing themselves Tsar Nicholas II who was a great but soft man recognized that the subhuman standards of living for commoners in russia and wanted to change it, without an iron fist leadership which he was not going for public appeasement was necessary, and this meant liberalization in the classical sense. He was simply too late in realizing this and he left himself open to Jewish bolsheviks who exploited every famine and problem that Russia had. This being said Nicholas II did not execute many rebels and Jewish communists with his okhrana secret police or prison system, Nicholas II prisons were even way better than in communist Russia. It comes without saying that no system is perfect, that is the human condition but as i mentioned we tried it before, it just fast-tracks to tyranny because natural selection which also applies to rulers is artificially eliminated by "virtue of birth", it's something so antiquated and that makes zero sense. You should read "They were White and they were Slaves" by Micheal A. Hoffman. You can also find it here http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.619.3821&rep=rep1&type=pdf Such systems are what you get when you don't place emphasis on the people that live in your nation, anything else is honestly a copout and nothing more than spiritually semitic. But it made sense at the time to not emphasize people, race. Since pretty much nobody had ever seen or heard about a negro/pygme or a tribal race. So this very important recognition didn't happen.
>>4890 >It's funny you mention former swamp of St. Petersburg, the entire city was built on human bones from citizen slaves/serfs, aka indentured servants for the romanov family, hundreds of thousands died completely preventable deaths to build that city for Peter the "Great", It wasn't too far-fetched to have military regiments and household slaves work on construction process. The Emperor's serfs did have to come in droves to begin construction on St. Petersburg. Like the Romans, they also had soldiers and slaves constructing roads and sanctioned them to work and die, but we still praise Roman engineering and their civics. The French monarchs also had commissions for projects of larger scale with service brought in from different parts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_du_Midi It was a marvel of engineering to keep the water afloat and was made for the benefit of avoiding the strait and allowing France to transport goods with ease across the continent--that was the same motivation with St. Petersburg. Russia always needed a good port city for its trade and commerce to industrialize with Western European nations. They always wanted access to the Black Sea and their Port Arthur in Korea. It was a measure to take for their public good in mind. They had a notion of the common good and this was whacked over the head of monarchs for centuries. It was assumed for the majority of these people that they were self-sufficient in many ways and they could scoop their service like a sand in a sandbox... I think sometimes those details are exaggerated, but that's all I'll dispute because I'm not going to deny that being a serf/slave isn't ideal. People today also think they're playing a slave role once in a while. >So, the preserved archival documents about the builders of North Palmyra for the first eight years of its existence allow us to come to the following conclusions. Firstly, in different years a rather different number of workers was determined in St. Petersburg (from 20 to 40 thousand per season). Secondly, in reality, the number of people sent and laborers and craftsmen was always less than the indicated number, as a result of which they were constantly in short supply. As the documents cited above show, they could not send people at all, or did not have time to collect the right number in time; there were even cases when working people recruited in a particular area scattered due to the invasion of the enemy army. In addition, some fell ill, fled or died on the way already at work in St. Petersburg. Therefore, it is natural to assumethat the officials responsible for these or those objects tried to preserve the workers they had. This is evidenced, for example, by the establishment of infirmaries, mentioned already under 1704. >Thirdly, the available historical sources cannot give the total number of people who died during the creation of the Petrovsky "paradise", but contain only fragmentary information. The mortality rate in them ranges from 0.19 to 13.25%, and the sick - from 1.06 to 40%. But according to this information, it is impossible to calculate the total number of deaths or illnesses, since, for example, the highest mortality rate (13.25%) was in July 1704 among 1,525 workers sent to Shlisselburg from Kargopol, Beloozero and Rzheva Volodimerovs, while mortality among those sent there in May from Rzheva Volodimerov, Romanov, Beloozer and from the Olonets shipyard, 1267 workers amounted to only 3%. In total, according to the decree of 1704, 20 thousand people were to send to Shlisselburg. Thus, we have data on only 14 percent of a certain number of people,by which it is impossible to judge what was the mortality rate of all working people who were in Shlisselburg in 1704. For the first eight years of the existence of St. Petersburg, information on all working people is available only in 1711, in which 0.24% died on the way to the "paradise", but it is not known how many workers died in the city itself. >Thus, the figures cited by foreign descriptions and created the history of the construction of St. Petersburg on the bones of its first builders, indeed, are very, very overstated. However, the documentary archival materials at our disposal are fragmented and are not able to provide generalized information on the number of deaths during the creation of the Northern capital in its early years. Translated from: https://statehistory.ru/5/Mif-o-postroennom-na-kostyakh-Peterburge/ That's what they say about Versailles (which I won't deny had its own death toll), but they also talk about a story published in a Dutch newspaper... exaggerating some incidents--and we know how the Dutch felt about King Louis XIV. >The workers? No. What's eminent about that city? The people who built it were nothing to their royal slavedrivers. Russia as with other European countries people had no fucking rights and no social mobility, if you were a tailor, if you were a pig farmer or mason the feudalism nature of the system usually meant you would be working in these professions for life, a "not noble" enough birth was literally the cause lol, imagine that. You couldn't even obtain schooling those were limited to nobles, and if you were lucky enough to be granted a change profession you had to enter a guild/apprenticeship, which also meant indentured servitude to a master who after typically many years allowed your freedom due to proprietary methods but this was also a form of extreme social control. This continued until the late 1800's. This will surprise most people because most trads/royalists today advocate a traditionalism and return to Feudalism/or even downplay Serfdom--but I don't want this. Don't get me wrong--I value tradition and know traditionalist qualms with rulers like Peter the Great and their scorn of 'Peterism'--but I also embrace innovations. I think that royal monarchy should encompass itself as an innovation, a renewal for the present-day dilemmas. But don't get the impression that I'm a kind of progressive--I value both old AND new to the extent it functions and works for all ages. For example, I am not even a Medievalist, but sometimes I dig up Medieval texts and appreciate them--but I also mostly don't really speak for Feudalism like other /monarchy/ anons (the majority, tbh) do... I don't condemn muh (((modernity))) the same way they do--I think that's silly to make new things on the basis of being new evil--or old bad because old things are old--I value all ages and want to see things eternally... modern isn't a bad word for me and neither is tradition... I hate these buzzwords and word salads the most (like the Collectivist vs. Individualist divide) and many other stupid things. >You should read "They were White and they were Slaves" by Micheal A. Hoffman. Maybe, but honestly--being brutally honest--I don't care when people do the guilt-trip angle like with King Leopold II's Belgian Congo or mark bad incidents--Charles Maurras had that occasion talking with a friend who mentioned King Louis XIV with the same tone of killing a peasant and resting his feet in the carcass--that's stuff is like the equivalent of muh Holocaust or muh slavery. >it just fast-tracks to tyranny Tyrannophobia.

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>poster unironically praises the Amerimutt Revolution even though they were liberals who yapped about muh equal men Who knew there so many racist/edgy liberals here?

Unpopular Opinions Blackshirt 09/11/2019 (Wed) 15:01:16 ID: 44881c No.87 [Reply] [Last]
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>Islam is actually pretty based and Islam minus Africanization would be a net benefit to the West
>there is nothing wrong with having more than one wife
>Tarrant is overrated
>Hitler had no chance of winning, but was still based overall
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>>4918 >I will definitely pick these up some time soon. I have been slowly easing into learning more about Japan recently anyhow, going through the Hagakure, Hojoki, Tsurezuregusa and some of Mishima's works. the Book of Five Rings and Life-Giving Sword are complementary in many ways, since Miyamoto Musashi was a wandering ronin, while Yagyu Munenori directly served the Tokugawa shoguns, who patronized his school of swordsmanship. Yamamoto Tsunetomo (the main source of Hagakure) was a samurai of the Saga domain who was somewhat at odds with the shogunate, so he falls into the middle. >Pagan law - which is necessarily in accordance with dharma and non-conflicting custom (nomos) should be focused on bringing out true change in inner dispositions, not merely LARPing along with the proscribed conduct so you don't burn in Hell. true indeed. this seems to be a central distinction between Dharmic and Abrahamic traditions. I've read that when the Buddha was teaching his disciples, the original sangha shared an implicit understanding of ethics and the path to enlightenment; however, they realized that if their teachings were to become a world religion and reach many more sentients, they had to set down their ideas explicitly, thus the Tripitaka was written down. >Of course that's quite the lofty ideal I set there, and violence and punishment are ultimately king in ensuring the stability of the castes and hierarchies (like the Laws of Manu say, emphasizing the importance of the virtuous king / leader). If everyone was virtuous we wouldn't need law or a state at all, but no one here is that deluded, but it should make us realize the importance of virtuous conduct. you need force, but only as a last result. cultivating virtue and leading by example is a better, more subtle way of guiding your people, but there's always a few deviants who cannot be persuaded and must be dealt with. we see this throughout dharmic teachings. the concept of the life-giving sword is that judicious use of violence can ultimately prevent greater violence. in Buddhism, there's the concept of upaya/skillful means, in which acts that would usually cause negative karma may be the right thing to do in specific situations. for example, let's say your house is burning down, and your kids are being spergs and ignoring the obvious danger. so you tell them that the toys they want are outside, tricking them into fleeing the house, and thus saving their lives. another example is the actions Burma has been taking against the Rohingya Muslims who, the media assure us, dindu nuffin. in reality, the Burmese are defending their nation, people and sangha against radical Islam. another meaning of upaya is to guide people towards the truth in terms they can understand. >The Talmud is definitely a huge departure from the older forms of Judaism. yes, I think this is the best way to explain the downright respectable qualities of the OT versus what came later.
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>>4924 >cultivating virtue and leading by example is a better, more subtle way of guiding your people I fully agree. It is shameful how degenerate and scandalous the actions of many of these suited up politicians today are. There is not the smallest amount of virtuous behavior in them. Leaders must be held to stringent ethical codes. If the leaders are corrupt, the people will be corrupted. Gita 3.21 - <Whatever action is performed by a great man, common men follow in his footsteps. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. The most recent example of this type of man, of course, is Hitler, but it was ever more frequent as we look back into the past when dharma was a more influential and recognized concept. >upaya I will have to read more about this. Now that I think about it, I guess I have heard of Munenori. I had thought that what you said about the sword sounded very familiar, and sure enough he was quoted in the introduction to the copy of the Hagakure that I own: <At times because of one man's evil, ten thousand people suffer. So if you kill that one man to let the tens of thousands live. Here, truly, the blade that deals death becomes the sword that saves lives. >another example is the actions Burma has been taking against the Rohingya Muslims who, the media assure us, dindu nuffin. in reality, the Burmese are defending their nation, people and sangha against radical Islam. I'm glad the Burmese Buddhists have been taking a stand against these people. They are clearly not innocent if one takes even a few minutes to read about what has gone down there (skirmishes between government forces and Rohingya militants, rioting, etc -- I'm sure I could find much more if I were to research the situation in any depth). Reading about what the Muslims did to Buddhists in Afghanistan, Kashmir and the great Buddhist monastery / university of Nalanda has always angered me. I've read that they explicitly targetted the Sangha during their "holy wars" since they were the heart of a healthy Buddhist community. It's especially telling that the modern word for "idol" or "graven image" is بت (bot) for now-Muslim speaking communities such as the Iranians comes from their word that once meant "Buddha".
>>4936 <Whatever action is performed by a great man, common men follow in his footsteps. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. this is similar to the concept of the chakravartin, or wheel-turning king, a virtuous ruler who uses temporal power to guide the people towards truth (as opposed to the spiritual power of the Buddha and bodhisattvas). >upaya like many other things in Buddhism, it's a subtle concept. it can refer to carefully bending the rules for the greater good, or telling people those parts of the truth they can understand in order to guide them. >I'm glad the Burmese Buddhists have been taking a stand against these people. as am I. and I'm not surprised that the shill media screeches about genocide in response to their proportionate, justified self-defense. >Reading about what the Muslims did to Buddhists in Afghanistan, Kashmir and the great Buddhist monastery / university of Nalanda has always angered me. there's a long history of conflict there, with Muslims being the aggressors of course. while there are respectable qualities in Islam, it's still an Abrahamic faith, which are virulent and aggressive by nature, prone to fundamentalism, and attempt to subvert or destroy all other ideas in their path. compare this to the lack of zealotry in dharmic faiths, and their ability to co-exist with one another such as in India and China. Dharmic religion tends to have a more philosophical character, which is especially true of Buddhism, and this gives it natural resistance to the cancer of radicalism. as an aside, the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan was a despicable act of vandalism, and something I find unforgivable. > the Sangha ... since they were the heart of a healthy Buddhist community. this is worth emphasizing. all Buddhists take refuge in the Three Jewels: the Buddha (enlightened one), dharma (teachings), and sangha (monastic community). so there's the original founder who charted the path to enlightenment, his teachings and discourses, and the community of monks who uphold this. an aspect of dharmic or natural order is a priestly class, who specialize in proper rituals and teaching, and are responsible for guiding the rest. they also unify communities, and prevent the atomization and sense of drift that pervades our society.
>>4938 >this is similar to the concept of the chakravartin, or wheel-turning king, a virtuous ruler who uses temporal power to guide the people towards truth (as opposed to the spiritual power of the Buddha and bodhisattvas). Even though that verse wasn't explicitly in reference to chakravartin, it might as well be, as a true chakravartin would doubtlessly follow such a style of ruling, as would any good leader: <3.20 — Even kings like Janaka and others attained the perfectional stage by performance of prescribed duties. Therefore, just for the sake of educating the people in general, you should perform your work. This verse again mentions the importance of ruling conscious of one's high and vital position. I've seen Emperor Ashoka described as Chakravartin, and I'm inclined to agree honestly, in light of use of Buddhism as a guiding ethic in his later reign, and how he banned Brahmanical animal sacrifice, protected non-food animals, fish and birds, and in general put great effort into propagating and promoting dharma among his people. It would be thousands of years until a ruler even came close to this level, and again not even close given the different cultural environment and the in-creeping of adharma, as we saw with Adolf Hitler's revolutionary bans on vivisection, animal cruely and abuse and his promotion of good conduct and health through his abstention alcohol, tobacco and meat. He certainly would have promoted dharma to his utmost if the Jews had not destroyed and re-enslaved the German people. >while there are respectable qualities in Islam, it's still an Abrahamic faith, which are virulent and aggressive by nature, prone to fundamentalism, and attempt to subvert or destroy all other ideas in their path. compare this to the lack of zealotry in dharmic faiths, and their ability to co-exist with one another such as in India and China. I definitely respect some aspects of Islam, as we've spoken about with its slightly more warrior-oriented tradition, not to mention its stances on alcohol and several other varieties of degeneracy, but much of these are definitely common sense values in my opinion and does not excuse many flaws of the Abrahamic traditions, of course. I have of course no desire to force my beliefs onto the entire planet and all people regardless of race and quality like Abrahamists do, but I think that it is their zealotry has granted them much success in spreading all over the Earth and stomping out other traditions. Hitler recognized this as well in more political terms, though in a more general sense: <“The conviction that one has the right to use even the most brutal weapons always goes hand in hand with fanatical faith in the necessity of the victory of a revolutionary new order upon this earth. A movement that is not fighting for such high aims and ideals, will therefore never resort to the most extreme means.” Still, while I might definitely believe such a thing in regards to politics (i.e. stomping out the opposition, especially those that preach things corrosive to any true Dharmic society), I of course see no problem with a plurality of healthy religious traditions, as, like you said, have coexisted (with a few bumps here and there) in India, China and Japan for centuries now. It's no coincidence at all that the only major religious purge to take place that readily comes to mind done by non-Abrahamics is on Abrahamics, i.e. in Tokugawa Japan when Christians were quite literally purged for being subversives: <The Christian influence, which had managed to gain an incredible following in just a few decades, was seen as a direct threat to life in feudal Japan, and so the shogunate decided to close Japan’s boarders to all but the most minimal of foreign exchange. This policy was known as sakoku (literally “closed country”). Trade was limited to Nagasaki, and only the Dutch, Koreans, and Chinese were tolerated. Any attempts to preach Christian ideals were met with the death penalty. From: “Wabi Sabi: The Japanese Art of Impermanence” by Andrew Juniper <Lest we get the impression that the long Tokugawa tranquility was a natural state of endless harmony, we should be aware of the numerous measures that were taken to keep the peace. [...] And a fourth [policy] was to suppress Christianity in the attempt to rid Japan of the dangerously destabilizing idea that all people were equal in the sight of God. The Tokugawa leaders wanted stability, not equality. They looked to Confucianism to establish a hierarchy of four main social classes. From: “Evanescence and Form” by Charles Shirō Inouye. >as an aside, the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan was a despicable act of vandalism, and something I find unforgivable.

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>>4936 >Whatever action is performed by a great man, common men follow in his footsteps. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. Reminds me of these: “You are there to govern; what use have you for killing? If you desire the good, the people will be good. The virtue of the gentleman is the wind; the virtue of the little people is the grass. The wind on the grass will surely bend it.” “Lead them with government and regulate them by punishments, and the people will evade them with no sense of shame. Lead them with virtue and regulate them by ritual, and they will acquire a sense of shame—and moreover, they will be orderly” Take the Confuciuspill.

/fascist/ Meme Dump / OC Thread Blackshirt 08/30/2019 (Fri) 20:47:56 ID: e64a3d No.25 [Reply] [Last]
Since we're in a new location we should probably post all of the old board related content we have stored, especially since a lot of it (especially board resources) was lost.

This thread can also be used for posting /fascist/ related OC.

Booru archive of some memes from 8chan (most are already ITT):
https://8-booru.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=%2Ffascist%2F
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>>4945 Women have been especially effected, but men have not faired well either under the unnatural conditions we have been forced into either
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>>5007 I'll make more eventually. I don't want to seem like I'm forcing anything by being the one to make the vast majority of them so I've been holding back since some anons complain. I'll definitely do more when the urge hits though
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>>5009 You could give Grace another try. no pressure
>>5017 (same anon) No pressure felt, don’t worry, anon. I do enjoy making them. Maybe I will try to make another Integralist x Grace crossover here soon, it has been a while after all

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Bushido / Samurai Thread. 武士道スレッド Blackshirt 01/23/2020 (Thu) 02:13:24 ID: 9f1c16 No.3986 [Reply] [Last]
I'm just starting to get into this subject along with the works of Yukio Mishima, so I thought it would be good to have a thread on Bushidō​, "the way of the warrior". There was also some discussion about the lack of a living warrior tradition and spirit among many whites today in the Islam thread. I think, looking at books such as the Hagakure, it is no surprise that white warriors such as Anders Breivik studied and took these doctrines seriously. Zanshin (残心)- "lingering heart", maintaining psychological alertness at all times, even after achieving victory in combat. It eintails remaining vigilant, calm and collected after an engagement, and mustering complete control over the surge of adrenaline in your blood. Expression emotions of joy in victory or anguish in defeat are unacceptable. A key concept. Select Quotes from Various Works (mostly Hagakure) >The Way of the warrior (bushido) is to be found in dying. [...] Rehearse your death every morning and night. Only when you constantly live as though already a corpse will you be able to find freedom in the martial Way and fulfill your duties without fault throughout your life. >"If I were to describe in a word what it means to do 'good' as a samurai, it is to withstand hardship. To not endure suffering is sinful." >Samurai should be heedful of everything, and detest falling even a little behind his rivals. Pay particular attention to your words lest you utter nonsense like "I am a coward," "I will run if things get nasty," "I'm afraid," or "it hurts". Under no circumstances should such aberrations of speech pass your lips in jest, in your sleep, or when you are babbling incoherently during illness. Percipient men will see straight through your core. Beware. >It is ruinous to pursue two Ways. The warrior needs only train in bushido - the Way of the samurai - and seek nothing else. The character of all ways ' ', is the same. Nevertheless, one cannot master the Way of the warrior while simultaneously becoming immersed in the teachings of Shinto and Buddha. If one understands this, then learning about the others Ways [for reference only] will serve to improve your training in the pursuit of bushido. >Regardless of the status of your house, be it high or low, the time will come when it will crumble. The downfall will be ignominious if you display exasperation, trying to avoid the inevitable. Accept your ruin with dauntless dignity when the time is upon you. With such mental preparation and acceptance of the inevitable, it may actually prove to be a remedial setback" I love talk of impermanence so I just had to include that one. >Once a certain man said, "I know the shape of 'reason' and 'woman'". When somebody asked what shape these things were, he replied: "Reason is a square, and will not budge at all. Women are round. Women do not discriminate between good or evil, wrong or right, and will roll into any position."

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>>4662 "Confessions of a Mask" was quite the book. It didn't really resonate with me that much and I only read it because it is supposedly loosely based on his early years, but it had some memorably gay moments, such as the protagonist jerking off to a picture of Saint Sebastian covered with arrows, some weird cannibalistic fantasy, stuff about dying young, masturbating over one of his schoolmate's hairy armpits, etc. No one will believe me when I say this but it was actually less degenerate than 99% of the stuff pumped out by Jews today. It had some good prose too, but I wouldn't call it my favorite Mishima work by a long shot.
>>4666 (Checked) >jerking off to a picture of Saint Sebastian covered with arrows, some weird cannibalistic fantasy, stuff about dying young, masturbating over one of his schoolmate's hairy armpits, etc >No one will believe me when I say this but it was actually less degenerate than 99% of the stuff pumped out by Jews today. Im hesitant to believe you. Is netflix really that bad these days?
>>4662 jej Yukio ate cum. He literally spread another man's sperm all over his lips and put japanese benis into his asshole where he shitted out of. People act like gay shit is abstract no, it's graphically disgusting and they molest boys (could be your son). The only way people can take a faggot like this seriously is if they abstract it into a word "gay" that is detached from the sick reality. In WWII Germany his books would be burned along with all the other jewish pedo trash. It's pathetic that people recommend this garbage
>>4021 Well, if anyone is interested in this concept then get in here >>4994
>>4670 It's all in presentation. The book is not written in a way that is meant to persuade you to think like the character, or that he is some sort of paragon of virtue that should be lauded or should be seen as the norm in society, meanwhile with the stuff put out by the Jews, these exact things are aimed at. The Jew actively astroturfs obscure and degenerate subcultures and aims to put them on every TV and computer screen, normalizing and celebrating them. The protagonist in Confessions of a Mask is a snivelling beta weakling who fakes illness to get out of military and wants to die half the time. He wears a false personality to present himself to the world. He even tries to be normal and fall in with a girl, but since he's such a giant faggot he can't bring himself to truly fall in love with her so he pussies out of marrying her. There's literally nothing admirable about this character, he's an utterly degenerate, weak, cowardly homo. The Jews would glorify this. I unironically think that cannibalistic fantasies and homos jerking off over hairy armpits is less degenerate than race-mixing propaganda and tranny normalization.

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