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Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads FashBO##yWPIHb 08/28/2019 (Wed) 22:55:22 ID: 5b336c No.9
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>>4183 The Amish and those like them? Certainly. They're way too meek and this is the direct result of their religion unfortunately. They'll resist the government up to a point (for example dozens if not a few hundred Amish fathers were thrown into jail during attempts to enforce (((public schooling))) back in the 1930s or so), but they'll cuck if pressed hard enough
>>4171 >>4185 I don't think it's just the Amish. It's Christianity as a whole. IMO it's a roadblock, an obstacle needs to be overcome and no actual victories can be achieved until it is. I used to struggle verbalizing what my suspicion is but recently I managed to put it into words. They worship a kike. There's no way of sugarcoating it, they do. If you believe that Jesus Christ was an avatar of the very god you worship, you worship a kike. I'll never indulge this wewuz bullshit about the king of jews sekkritly being an eastern european. I think that because christians worship a jew, even if only subconsciously, it makes them worship kikes as a whole and value the well-being of kikes above all else. It makes them subservient on a deep psychological level. Whenever a political group or celeb or what have you tries to gain steam to better circulate non-kosher information or ideas that are ethnically pro-white. Sure, the first resistance you meet comes from the left, because not despising white people and wanting all white people dead goes against their deepest sensibilities. But if you break through that resistance, who comes immediately after in stabbing you in the back, sowing distrust, spreading paranoia in a disingenuous manner? Who is the first to close ranks around the chosenites? Christians. And no, it's not limited to this or that sect, all of them are guilty of this. Every single sect of christianity except greek orthodox ones, I've caught several times protecting their bull-worshiping masters. Every last one. I'm not letting this apologism for race traitors go unchallenged, not here. I genuinely think worshiping Yeshuah makes you instinctively worship kikes as a whole. It's why I don't care if this or that other religion (including paganism) is degenerate. I'd take a white person of literally any religion, including atheism, over a christian. If given the choice between either trusting a christian or a satanist, I'd literally rather pick the latter, because the chances of the latter being honest with me are still higher if being honest with me is to the detriment of kikes.
>>4185 The Amish don't even avoid using recent technology. Enough have been caught using cellphones and/or remaking outside tech for their farming. Part of it is necessity, part of it is that their way isn't going to last within the decades as long as Globohomo stilll spreads around.
>>4197 >Part of it is necessity, part of it is that their way isn't going to last within the decades as long as Globohomo stilll spreads around. I feel the same way unfortunately. They’ll soften up eventually, and start to adopt what once seemed unthinkable, which is happening slowly it seems from their partial de-agrarianization in highly populated Amish areas like Lancaster County PA. >>4192 Good post. <b-but, anon, Jesus wasn’t a Jew, he was a white JUDEAN !
What’s with all of the edge posting recently? >kill and torture women for minor infractions >exterminate all lemmings etc. Is this one person?
>>4217 >decades of every solution to problems under the sun that doesn't involve killing people failing to achieve anything It's the logical conclusion of past experiences. We've been through 70 years of prevent-consequences-from-everything-just-keep-making-it-work. 70 years of band-aids and temporary solutions piled upon temporary solutions piled upon temporary solutions, and we're seeing it predictably crumble. That's why more and more yearn for a clean slate to start anew with proper, long-lasting solutions.
>>4221 violence always comes at a cost. this is not to say you should be pacifist, but going to the other extreme has its own pitfalls, as you lose the moral high ground and your victims become martyrs. >>4192 Christianity is Abrahamic and Levantine in character. while it became entrenched in Europe, ultimately it doesn't quite fit our people. our roots go deeper.
>>4192 Jesus was a Nazarene not a Jew. what we need to be is like a militant Amish.
>>4217 women shouldn't be killed for minor infractions, but things like adultery should be taken very seriously and physical punishment is the only way to deter that. >>4223 "Christianity is Abrahamic and Levantine in character" so is Islam and I see a lot of people shilling for that around these parts while deriding Christianity. kind of makes you guys hypocrites
They should allow you to spank women again.
>>4192 >If you believe that Jesus Christ was an avatar of the very god you worship, you worship a kike wouldn't the best way to combat this thought be to argue that during his time on Earth Jesus was just a man, and that Jesus even told christians that there is only 1 God and said that they shouldn't worship a man. Or to convince christians that there is an hidden meaning in the Bible (idk like Gnosticism?) >>4225 >"Christianity is Abrahamic and Levantine in character" <so is Islam and I see a lot of people shilling for that around these parts while deriding Christianity. kind of makes you guys hypocrites this
>>4226 I don't care what kikes say I can and can't do If I get married to a woman she's my wife and I'll discipline her as I see fit. Unironically spanking is the best way you could discipline a woman without harming them severely, just giving them a sore ass. I can't think of what a woman would have to do for me to consider that though. If it was done out of plain anger it doesn't sit right with me but if she did something really stupid it would be warranted. >>4225 >but things like adultery should be taken very seriously and physical punishment is the only way to deter that. I complete agree when it comes to adultery.
>>4227 >wouldn't the best way to combat this thought be to argue that during his time on Earth Jesus was just a man, and that Jesus even told christians that there is only 1 God and said that they shouldn't worship a man That's essentially what Muslims believe, isn't it? >>4224 >what we need to be is like a militant Amish. That's the plan. I might say Hutterite with a more pronounced anti-tech stance though, since the Hutterites use a lot more tech than the Amish but live a much more collectivist lifestyle isolated from the outside world.
>>4225 >so is Islam and I see a lot of people shilling for that around these parts while deriding Christianity. kind of makes you guys hypocrites that's true. I assume it's because Islam has a much more militant tradition, and has remained more conservative into the modern era. thus it's easier to see its positive qualities, and overlook its incompatibility with the West.
What economic system does this look like?
>>4351 Hell, I hate syndicates, taxi drivers and taxi-driver syndicates My boiling hate aside, having worker associations –which I will assume are separated by area of work– being just under the leader, is very reminiscent of D'Annunzio's corporatism. although there was no place for just capital owners in that system, administrators were intertwined with the workforce
-What is the song in the flash file? -How can you convince a person on the importance of racial/cultural preservation when I'm a mongrel? -Can trannies be fascist? (Eg.B00t) -Is it true that trannies existed in ancient india? Or is it a liberal lie? -why is Marx and Engels wrong? And hegel right? -Where is Friedrich engel's on the magyar struggle?, does any one have a copy? -Is class analysis wrong? -Can someone link me sources debunking the Holocaust numbers, supposed mass murders etc. Committed by fascist and proto-fascist governments
>>4405 >Can trannies be fascist? (Eg.B00t) Any serious group would harshly condemn all tranny pseudoscience and its proposed ""solutions"". A man can never become a woman, and a woman can never become a man, period. >Is it true that trannies existed in ancient india? Or is it a liberal lie? They're real. From what I've read it doesn't seem accurate to call them trannies though, since I don't know if are really considered to be "women". It seems to be a lumping together of eunuchs, transvestites, fags and hermaphrodites more than anything. They were even mentioned in the Kama Sutra which dates from something like a few hundred years after the Buddha, i.e. ~300 BC. They're degenerate though, apparently HIV ridden. >why is Marx and Engels wrong? Their radical egalitarianism is against the natural order which recognizes qualitative differences according to race, gender, etc, and their theories of strengthening the state for it to magically "wither away" into a classless, moneyless, stateless utopia is pure fantasy and contrary to all logic. Classes will always exist. Greater and lesser individuals will always exist and should rule over the lesser. Society is supposed to necessarily evolve into Communism as if Marx could predict how things would evolve from his own place in time. It's just another garbage, Abrahamic ideology that preaches (((progress))) and a utopia to come, but only if we set various groups in society against one another, dragging them down to their own level through their resentment and wiping away all higher culture. Marxism relies on the dead weight of the masses. >Is class analysis wrong Not necessarily. It can be useful.
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>>4373 Taxi drivers seem to be scummy trash everywhere, with some rare exceptions. >>4405 >How can you convince a person on the importance of racial/cultural preservation when I'm a mongrel? You of all people should be able to realize why doing otherwise is a bad thing. Plus "you must be x in order to support x" line of thinking is pretty much retarded. Germans burned my grandfather's house and shot my grandmother in the leg, and I'd join SS tomorrow if I could. >Can trannies be fascist? As long as they accept themselves as mentally ill, broken degenerates and not promote it, sure. Sick people have always existed, it's better for them to contribute than be used by kikes as disruptive/subversive elements due to their higher psychopathic tendencies. >Is it true that trannies existed in ancient india? Homos have existed since forever. Inb4 I'm not gay, I'm a woman kek. >why is Marx and Engels wrong? And hegel right? Most people didn't really understand Hegel. Especially not kikes like Marx. Materialism is not a dialectical position, nor is egalitarianism of any kind. Marx butchered Aryan philosophy to create an abomination, just like Einstein butchered Aryan physics to create his mathematically inconsistent model that's more pilpul than physics. A kike always steals ideas and then corrupts them to achieve the opposite of what they were originally meant to achieve. >Where is Friedrich engel's on the magyar struggle?, does any one have a copy? https://www.scribd.com/document/260450781/Marx-Engels-Collected-Works-V-08-M-E-1848-49-Articles-From-Neue-Rheinische-Zeitung >Is class analysis wrong? Classes are a naturally occurring phenomenon caused by inherent difference in nature, quality, ability and disposition between people (and peoples). The key is to allow social mobility between them, otherwise they become dysgenic and lead to social decay, taking entire nations with them. >Can someone link me sources debunking the Holocaust numbers, supposed mass murders etc. Committed by fascist and proto-fascist governments Lurk more across the /pol/ type boards on various chans. Which is what you would need to do anyway, there is no spoonfeeding when it comes to this.
>>4431 >As long as they accept themselves as mentally ill, broken degenerates and not promote it, sure. Sick people have always existed, it's better for them to contribute than be used by kikes as disruptive/subversive elements due to their higher psychopathic tendencies. You can't build a movement out of the mentally ill and perverted. The mere toleration of any sort of trannyshit is passive promotion and normalization. Sick people need put in asylums and denied what they desire. These are not mentally sound people and allowing them to indulge in their sickness is wrong.
>>4436 Of course a movement wouldn't be built out of them, they would just be tolerated (to a very limited extent), provided they have a lot to contribute otherwise and are able to control their illness in public. Now, trannies are a bit extreme, but they wouldn't be given any public roles whatsoever or allowed to express themselves, we would just ignore what they do behind closed doors as long as it's not something subversive. That applies to degenerates in general. Their natural occurrence/frequency is much lower than what's being forced by ZOG today, these things are not that much of an issue if not systematically promoted as part of a larger subversive agenda. Unrepentant faggots and other degenerates would get the gas though. It's just pointless to drive away supporters who could contribute a lot, or have them undermine the society until they get exposed. Gotta be pragmatic a bit.
>>4438 >Unrepentant faggots and other degenerates would get the gas though. AKA trannies. There should be no toleration for these people and pandering to (or even accepting) these types of bizarre sexual / “gender identities” is degenerate, plain and simple, especially when they are such a tiny minority of the population that have, in 99% of cases, fallen victim to pornography and Jewish propaganda. There are men and then there are women, each needs to except that this is unalterable.
Probably a newfag question, but anyway. What distinct difference between Nationalist and Patriot ? The first one cares only about his people and another one cares only about legal system/constitution ?
>>4469 I’m most curious about this outside of the American context, so if any non-Burgers can chime in on the usage of these terms and their equivalents it’d be interesting to hear, because here in America both parties understandably try to present themselves as patriotic – lovers of America, its values, etc (muh freedom, supporting the military, democracy, etc) but it’s not a dirty world at all compared to nationalism for most normalfags. The two were traditionally fairly close synonyms, and this is reflected in the etymologies of the words, but patriotism in the American context at least is almost identical with the civcuck phenomenon where a country is nothing more than a club that can composed of anyone as long as they share the same values. It doesn’t matter if your grandchildren will be brown so long as they wave the flag and support the troops! In contrast to this, nationalism in America is more a dirty word and seems to be interpreted as “jingoism” or fanatical patriotism of some kind, and you’ll get people saying “I’m patriotic, but not a nationalist”. It’s really no surprise though, because America is little more than a Jewish-run ethnic potpourri and consoomer shithole. American nationalism is almost invariably civic nationalism (or as they’d say “patriotism” since I’ve never heard the term civnat IRL). Generally though, I think that nationalism used as a standalone term and put into practice is much more inherently focused on the indigenous people of the nation and is thus inherently less kosher.
>>4470 Thanks. In my country (Russia), the "Patriots" are just "Soviet-style patriots"(civnat shit, cult of WW2 victory, blaming the West for all evil). When Nationalists are strongly equated with Fascism/Nazism, and all, even pro-regime and "moderately racist" Nat parties are outlawed as "extremists" or exist in semi-legal conditions. The another story, is when Putin trying to use Nationalists against Ukraine in 2014-16 as cheap cannon fodder. Some of them think, that dealing with Kremlin will by "indulgence" and probably allow them to officially register in State Parliament. But Putin backstabbed them and send FSB glowniggers into their homes and throw some of them to jail. I found the only article in English, which is cover this events: https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/c200opbs So, Ukraine-Russia conflict are very divided Nat circles and the half of main Nat leaders, such as Egor Holmogorov & Konstantin Krylov became a Vatniks(Soviet patriots). Another half, such as Dmitry Demushkin and Vladimir Basmanov made a temporary alliance with liberals and libertarians, and now stand in anti-government opposition.
>>4471 Thanks for the input.
>>4471 >In my country (Russia), the "Patriots" are just "Soviet-style patriots"(civnat shit, cult of WW2 victory, blaming the West for all evil). >When Nationalists are strongly equated with Fascism/Nazism, and all, even pro-regime and "moderately racist" Nat parties are outlawed as "extremists" or exist in semi-legal conditions. Very interesting, I’m actually surprised to see that this mirrors the US usage in some ways. How is National Socialism or even fascism in general viewed in Russia? Do they disassociate with Hitler at all? The only thing with (self-proclaimed) NatSocs in Russia I can think of is that beheading video from a while back and for fascists stuff like the Movement Against Illegal Immigration, which was banned, predictably it seems according to what you’ve said here
>>4474 >How is National Socialism or even fascism in general viewed in Russia? Do they disassociate with Hitler at all? In 2000s, one of DPNI(Movement Against Illegal Immigration) leaders, Alexander Potkin, openly talked, that the he used some of Hitler's methods and want to win elections in "democratic way". But now, after he was released from prison, he probably become more politically correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Potkin After dissolution of DPNI, his brother, Vladimir Basmanov, started a movement "Natsia I Svoboda/Nation And Freedom" in 2014. Now it is the one of several semi-legal and very popular Nationalist movements in Russia, maybe just like "Generation Identity" in Europe and US. Basmanov chose to temporarily allying himself with liberal opposition parties. https://vk.com/komitetns
>>4470 Nationalism usually refers to ethno-nationalism (race, culture, history of a certain broader racial-ethnical group) . In short, you are my nation only if we share sufficient genetic ancestry, geographical origin of our forefathers and culture/mentality. Patriotism is a civnat, kosher alternative that mimics the aforementioned but is based on a Talmudic/legalese (((enlightenment))) civic society concept rather than blood and soil. In short, you are my nation if you were born on the same side of an entirely arbitrary and pointless border as me (or a naturalized fellow rootless cosmopolitan), regardless of your racial composition, culture/mentality, geographical roots etc. as long as you follow the laws imposed by whatever ruling entity is in place. The only things separating one "patriotic" country from another are having different mafia in power (or at least different branches of the global Jewish mafia), wearing different flag colors and maybe speaking a different language. This was only one step in gradual dissolution of nation-states, which can only have globohomo as it's logical consequence. The so called "patriots" (in any country based on this concept) are just people who are too weak, stupid and mundane to desire an actual nation-state, but feel threatened by globohomo as it's much more competitive than the transitional civnat states that they were used to. They want all the globopoz, but they also want to give themselves some kind of leverage, such as being born on the "right" side of the border. >>4471 I'm glad there are Russians who understand that. Putin is a kike, and the whole Ukraine conflict was a convenient way for both sides to try to get rid of nationalistic people. But anyone going into a war openly sponsored by Jewish oligarchs (especially in the case of Ukraine and it's western (((sponsors)))), is not very smart. Russians in general are far more nationalistic than their government though, at least from my experience.
Not really a question, but I would like to share with you all a short story I think you would find amusing. http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200207/0743435281___2.htm
>>2186 Do you have any archives for those Sam Harris Threads in /buddhism/? I know he makes a sham by monetizing Zen Buddhism, I just want to learn more about his fraud
what is integralism?
>>4543 In the context you'll see it used most often in here it's referring to the Brazilian manifestation of fascism. It was much closer to Italian Fascism than anything else and is probably most infamous in these circles for not being racially-oriented. Sadly it's very hard to find anything in English by them or their main leader back in the day Plínio Salgado. There's a series of three books called the Codex Fascismo that has some translations of some of their writings. I often see these books praised but I own all three of them and was very disappointed in the quality of the translations, as it reads very clunkily and seems as if the author himself attempted to translate them with little to no knowledge of the languages covered in that book. Interestingly enough too the people that claimed responsibility for the firebombing of the studio which produced that kiked Netflix series on a homosexual Jesus claimed to be Integralists. https://archive.fo/9VQP6
What is the general view towards christianity now? Not the cucked normalfag version, the one nationalists follow.
>>4550 >What is the general view towards christianity now? It’s a fundamentally flawed religion for many reasons as I’m sure you’ve heard echoed here and elsewhere time and time again, but I think in some places it’s all that’s standing between a scrap of decency and total depravity. Despite this though normalfag Christians never actually push back, they’re fundamentally like conservatives, they always play defense – and half-assed at that, never offense, and so they’re routinely pushed back, allowing our enemies to inject more toxins into the bloodstream of the nation. Even then these people are cucked on abortion (not viewing it through a racialist lense), and many other issues. As for nationalist Christians, all power to them if they want to fight back like Codreanu did before them and attempt to remove the parasites and better the nation. I’d never attack a group for doing such a great thing like that merely over religion, that’d be kikery. We’ll see if we ever see such a thing again in any significant manner though. As I see it Christianity will continue to decay as the decadent age continues its descent, and as Christianity becomes less and less white. Paganism – not of the shallow LARPing variety but as an spiritual and racial outlook on life – will be the ethnonationalist Weltanschauung of the future, especially where Christianity is more degenerated. I think this for a handful of reasons, mainly due to the spiritual void, the facts I mentioned about Christianity above, the renewed focus on the well-being of the planet in many of these circles – all very paganistic.
>>4550 All they see is souls, and that jews are gods chosen people. Just talk to christians yourself and you can make up your own mind
>>4571 >Jews are god's chosen people This is the claim that Jews are actually banking on right? If we can debunk this claim then we can possibly get more people to retaliate against the Jews. Spoiler alert we can debunk it. The name Jew simply means of Judah. This means we can already debunk their claim to be the chosen people because the chosen people of God actually got the blessing passed from the patriarch. However Judah wasn't the one to get the blessing. It was Joseph. Then Joseph passed it down to his son's Ephraim and Manasseh. Genesis 48:14 "And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn." The word Israel is actually just Jacob. However what you notice is that these two are not named Judah and he only got a side blessing. Also fun fact did you know that Judah actually sold Joseph into slavery when the eldest son Reuben prevented the other tribes from killing Joseph. Genesis 37:26-27 "And Judah said unto his brethren, What profit is it if we slay our brother, and conceal his blood? 27Come, and let us sell him to the Ishmeelites, and let not our hand be upon him; for he is our brother and our flesh. And his brethren were content." Effectively Judah sold off his own brother if that doesn't sound Jewish I don't know what does. However even with this scrap of information we can easily explain why the Jews are god's chosen people. Look I can go deeper down this rabbit hole cause their is a lot of stuff we can deduce just from the bible and a lot of it can be backed up by historical sources.
>>4602 *aren't
>>4602 All you have to do is convince irrational followers of jewish religion that the foundational characters of their religion that the people who wrote the entire first half of their holy book should be shunned
-Another question who's theories more compatible with fascism. Carl Gustav Jung or Sigmund freud? And how can we synthesize depth psychology with fascism?
Jung definitely. But I did an attempt at turning Freud on his head in my books and it worked out well
I made a claim the mentally ill were God's chosen people rather than the filthy Jews
>>4638 t. mentally ill
>>4546 You seem knowledgeable on it. Are there significant enough differences between civic nationalism and integralism to separate the two, or are they very similar with each other?
>>4728 It's probably the closest thing there that I know of to a "fascist civic nationalism". In many ways I'd say that this is actually unnatural and far too modern of an idea, which Hitler rightfully mocked as being like no more than a club that anyone can belong to, making the nation meaningless and devoid of all reality. If we define as nations as groupings of people based on a shared heritage, which usually includes a common language, common religious traditions and a common racial / ethnic ancestry we see what the ethnonationalist ideal is. Some of the definitions of civic nationalism that I saw right before typing this post make it seem like the term is somewhat associated with liberal ideas like freedom and equality, but I still think that it's the best term for this, since "civic" comes from "citizen" and if you're not living in a larger Volk community but instead are merely a member of a pseudo-national amalgam state like Brazil, America or elsewhere that's all you really are, a citizen.
Was Metaxas a fascist? If not did greece have any notable fascists? What were his policies on stuff like the JQ? Also is Golden Dawn legit? It's hard to find reliable information on the state of greece.
>>4868 >Also is Golden Dawn legit? They appear to be one of the most serious National Socialist parties out there today. The real shame is though that they have recently lost every single seat that they held in the Hellenic Parliament. They had held nearly twenty since the 2015 election. I wonder what happened. I’d certainly keep an eye on them though. Outside of Greece though look at the Slovakia thread, there is a legitimate fascist party fluctuating between second and third place in the national polls. Election soon
>>4870 >I wonder what happened. As far as I remember they jailed and/or threw out some of the elected members for no good reason, because that's how (((democracy))) works. As corrupt as Greece is it would come to no surprise that they cheat elections. It would be dumb to put it past any other government at this point seeing how Jewish and masonic the right side neo-cohens and leftists are on the same team. People are suffering in Greece economically, they have taxes forced down their throats and even previously wealthy people have to sell off their cars they worked hard for, especially the expensive ones for peanuts so that these fucking criminals can continue raping their country dry for Jew money. Remember that even though these people in our "demo"-cracies put up a good show for us to appear different they're essentially all the same, it's simply a stage act, but they all coincidentally tip toe the judeomasonic (((party line))) in the end bringing us a net negative, it's not coincidence. It's safe to say looking at the timetable of the one-direction monotonous things that have happened after WW2. Not even one European or white country for that matter has even done something as simple closing their fucking borders or have done something different. We're on a sinking ship and this fucking scum are playing their card-game and laughing, drinking the most expensive champagne when not helping the boat sink faster and telling us its no big deal we're sinking. And the rest of us many confused, have to struggle to get out of the place if they're not paralyzed by lies. That's all it is.
9chan's quality is rapidly declining, right now it almost looks like 4/pol/, I advise removing the refuge board from there to prevent these people from finding this place too
>>4931 I've been meaning on fucking around with what the exact bunker-plan sometime soon. Nein seems to get a ton of annoying spam, bots and CP-posting, especially recently. The other bunker we have, that one on the fatpeople.lol site or whatever it was called I might dump as well. I found that site to be very poorly designed. I'd rather have to move to somewhere user-friendly like this place if we had to. I'll let people know if I make any changes.

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