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October 14th, 2019 Anonymous 10/14/2019 (Mon) 11:50:02 No.35023
Today marks Lillian Gish's 126th birthday! Say something nice about the greatest actress who ever lived!
>>35023
She's cute as heck but it's a sin for a woman that attractive to not bear children. Very selfish to rob future generations of those wonderful genes so you can chase your career. She also dropped her America first stance when threatened with being blacklisted. I want to like her but it seems like she was a career driven cunt before feminism was even a thing so I'm struggling.

The cuteness is the only positive I can think of. It's like that Hitler speech says, a woman who is capable of having children, has them and raises them to be healthy adults is far superior to the most skilled female doctor or lawyer who has no children. They are the ones who keep our nation's alive through the generations, not the selfish dried up career cunts.

Literally the only saving grace here would be if she was secretly barren or something but I doubt it after all she dropped the America first stance like a hot potato when threatened with being blacklisted.
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Thank you for helping to popularize the closeup with legendary director D.W. Griffith! Where would the film industry be today without these people?
>>35027
based
there isn't a single woman with integrity
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>She was originally a member of the America First Committee, which advocated against US intervention in WWII. It was not an uncommon position to be against America joining the war, with polls showing that 40% of Americans agreed at one point, but eventually Nazi brutality made anti-war sentiment a radical opinion–one most infamously associated with the fascist-sympathizing Charles Lindbergh. Gish was against any war due to her experience filming "Hearts of the World" (1918), a WWI propaganda film, with D.W. Griffith in war-time France, in which she saw the horrors the Great War had unleashed. On why she opposed American involvement in WWII, Gish said, "If I could save one American life and ruin my career in doing so, I would consider my career well lost." However, she resigned as a member of the committee several months before Pearl Harbor, and would later write a letter, "I made War Propaganda", in the periodical Scribner's Commentator. After war was declared on Germany in December 1941, isolationism fell heavily out of favor with the dominant sentiment of the nation but Mary Pickford defended her: "This lady is as you and I are. She was merely against war".
While shooting Way Down East (1920) she was required to lie down on a slab of ice that was floating in a river for several hours in order to shoot a scene. While she did this, one of her hands was immersed in freezing cold water for hours, which permanently damaged the nerves in her wrist.

WTF she could have DIED

I guess they didn't care as much for stunt people back in the day
>>35035
I'd shoot on her down way if you know what I mean
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>>35053
rude!
>>35023
She was dedicated to her craft and really helped raise the bar when it came to movie acting.
>>35034
Wasn't she also on good terms with Mussolini? I know Hal Roach was interested in working with him at one point.
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>>35103
>Wasn't she also on good terms with Mussolini?
Yes, it appears to be that way

http://margaretperry.org/conservatism-in-revolution-the-gish-sisters-in-d-w-griffiths-orphans-of-the-storm-1921/
None

Apparently she admired Mussolini greatly during her visit to Italy.
>>35150
Griffith was not Republican but he was a кино director anyway.
is she the only right wing actress?
>>35153
There are a few conservative Republican actresses, most notably Mary Pickford, Irene Dunne, Shirley Temple, Ginger Rogers, Helen Hayes, and Barbara Stanwyck. Hard to come by, more so in the 21st century.
>>35153
>>35157
Razorfist is a faggot but he did a pretty good video on the leftism in Hollywood just a few days ago.
>>35158
>muh leftism
Holy based!
>>35163
>I said muh so that means it's not an issue
PASTE
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>>35178
Methinks a fellow member of the kekistani diaspora has found his way to this humble little corner of the intarwebs, hmmmmm? Shadilay fellow memer and welcome back home, you'll find plenty of fellow pedes here ready to pierce the libs paper thin armor with the rapier of logic and then deliver sundering blows with the flail of facts.

Kek be with you kinsman and a MIGA to you all!
>>35219
Wow paste!
Happy bday, Lil'.
>>35153
Blanche Sweet had some right wing ideals such as being against women's suffrage
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Cute
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I see how D.W. Griffith could get confused trying to tell the Gish sisters apart
Bump
>>35023
Is it true that Lillian Gish invented acting?
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>>35329
that's a Joker reference if I ever saw one..

Broken Blossoms came out 1919…society treats Lillian Gish's character like trash

Joker comes out 2019…full circle…Broken Blossoms was prophetic. D.W. Griffith has done it again!
>>35329
Joker is one big homage to silent cinema… to D.W. Griffith if you reallty think about it.
Let's put a smile on that face. Happy bday Miss Gish and thank you!
>>35023
Did she died?
>>35342
yea like 25 years ago but she lives on in our hearts.

>>35337
Lillian Gish is the original Jokester
>>35329
she kinda looks like Emma Stone there
>>35346
>She lived to 99 years old
What a life she must have lived
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>>35153
>>35157
Reagan's first wife.
Post rare pics of Miss Gish if you have any even thouhg its not her birthday anymore I don't want this thread to die so soon
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>>35243
She starred in her first film, titled "An Unseen Enemy", in 1912. The first shot taken of her was when huddled close to her sister, as the picture shows. Allegedly, when D.W. Griffith met with the two sisters, the sat on a bench close together in a similar fashion. Griffith was so impressed by their fondness of each other he decided to reenact the scene. Some sources claim Griffith became infatuated with Miss Gish from the moment he first lay eyes on her, others claim he had so much difficulty separating the two sisters he had them put on different colored ribbons to tell them apart (the ribbons are visible in the picture from An Unseen Enemy).
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>>35530
This is always the publicity picture that comes to mind when I think of Lillian Gish in her younger days.
Broken Blossoms went to extreme measures to utilize every method of photographic enhancement available at the time, resulting in a picture quality that is uncharacteristically good for 1919. It also contains the infamous “closet scene” which was so dramatically acted that people had to be restrained from barging onto the set, after hearing the screams, and caused Griffith to be sick on the set.
>>35665
It also comes across like a predecessor to that famous scene from The Shining.
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An excerpt from Lillian Gish: Her Legend, Her Life
By Charles Affron

(upon the marriage of her sister Dorothy Gish to Canadian actor James Rennie)
Lillian Gish will never die!
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Post some Griffith/Gish duos if you know of any
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkaY01b4ses
bump
Is the romance between Lucy Burrows and Cheng Huan in Griffith's Broken Blossoms among the most enduring romances on film? Is it superior to the novel version by Thomas Burke's Chink and the Child? The range and emotional exchange between Gish and Barthelemess defies the art of the greatest novelists?

>>35672
Kubrick's Shining was directly inspired by the scene from The Phantom Carriage (1921, directed by Victor Sjöström who worked with Lillian Gish on The Scarlet Letter and The Wind). The scene from The Phantom Carriage was inspired by the closet scene in Griffith's Broken Blossoms. One thing leads to another. What did The Shining inspire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTA9B7VB4kI
>>40389
>Kubrick's Shining was directly inspired by the scene from The Phantom Carriage (1921, directed by Victor Sjöström who worked with Lillian Gish on The Scarlet Letter and The Wind). The scene from The Phantom Carriage was inspired by the closet scene in Griffith's Broken Blossoms.
I wasn't aware of that movie. I did see The Wind, though.
I wish there was more discussion of silents on this board but I don't want to go to julay /film/ 'cause it's too slow
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>>41793
we should have a silent era general on here
Human beings became really fucking ugly in 100 years.
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>>41834
*blocks your path*
>>41835
Hollywood whore covered in makeup who sold her soul and has been cummed in by multiple jews and niggers at coke orgies. Also she is a female her blocking my path will do nothing.
>>41834
Jews doing sexual favors has always happened, even back in the Renaissance master artists had to paint fat ugly bitches due to money
>>41835
if she has stored eggs, she should get the mountain to squirt on them
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>>41837
>moving the goalposts
I don't really see what you guys see in Gish honestly. I mean it in a purely physical way. She's not ugly but she isn't an otherwordly beauty either.
>>41793
>>41798
Agreed.
>>41840
I prefer Gloria Swanson in terms of looks (and will also give her bonus points for becoming a GILF), but Lillian Gish had a cute face.
>>41842
I don't find her attractive either. Now Louise Brooks, Marion Byron, Vilma Bánky, Mary Brian or Greta Garbo I can see the appeal.
>>41840
How is that moving the goalpost, she's also ugly and/or mediocre.
>>41873
I'm starting to think you have shit taste.
Don't let this thread die, lads.
>>42486
I think we might be better off moving to a silent movie general.
>>42516
>are not all women the very same whore, each to a woman?
No.
>>42763
dwayne pointing.mp3

INCORRECT
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>Before filming began on The Unforgiven (1960), director John Huston and star Burt Lancaster took actress Lillian Gish out to the desert to teach her how to shoot, which she would have to do in the film. However, Huston was astounded to discover that Gish could shoot more accurately, and faster, than both he and Lancaster, who thought themselves expert marksmen. It turned out that early in her career Gish was taught how to shoot by notorious western outlaw and gunfighter Al J. Jennings, who had become an actor after his release from a long prison sentence for train robbery and was in the cast of one of her films. She found that she liked shooting and over the years had developed into an expert shot.

What a woman!
>>43541
>Jennings settled in El Reno, Oklahoma Territory and served as Canadian County, Oklahoma, prosecuting attorney from 1892 until 1894. In 1895 he joined his brothers Ed and John, in a law practice at Woodward. In October of that year Ed Jennings was killed, and John Jennings wounded, in a shootout with rival attorney Temple Lea Houston.
Wtf? Lawyers used to get into shootouts with each other and rob trains? Imagine being born in that era when rulecuckoldry barely existed and you could challenge somebody to a duel to the death for insulating you with no legal blowback.
>>41837
>covered in makeup
so are the other women ITT
>>43570
>imagine not being a slave
I can't
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>>43541
Loved her in Night of the Hunter.
>>35525
Here is a behind the scenes photo of Lillian Gish on the set of The Enemy (1927).

Cameras were so huge back then. It must've taken some serious skill to wield back in those days. I wonder how heavy they were. Nowadays everybody has a camera on their phones which don't weigh much more than half a kilogram.
>>43637
That's one of my favorite movies of that era. Harry Powell is one of the best villains of all time, if you ask me. Robert Mitchum might have even been better in that than in Cape Fear.
>>45091
It makes the moving shots they had back then all the more impressive. Link related is a shot from Wings that I've always really liked. That's not even going into the plane scenes or the nightclub shot with the camera moving forward past the tables.
>>43616
I remember in the long ago when you could escape from the chains and be free in the wild.
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>>45092
>Harry Powell is one of the best villains of all time
Without a doubt.
>Robert Mitchum might have even been better in that than in Cape Fear.
I can't believe I still haven't seen this.
>>45878
That scene was actually Buddy Rogers's first time drinking, and he really was hammered in real life.

There's also a really similar shot to the one I posted in Murders in the Rue Morgue from like five years later. It might be coincidental, but Wings was a huge movie when it came out.
>>45879
That's such an ominous scene. If I remember right, they actually used a midget and a miniature horse to stand in for Robert Mitchum.
>>35219
>everyone seems to be unironically saying dup btfo so i can definitely fit in here hee hee
leftydup btfo
Even to this day many people don't look highly upon actors and view acting as a way of whoring oneself out. If people still think like this in 2019 it must've been really bad back in the 1910s and earlier. In those days you could walk up and ask a director if you could be in a movie and you'd get accepted right away most of the time. Acting was not in high demand, especially for something as new as cinema was in the 1910s. Low class.
>>47268
There's an unsourced claim on Wikipedia that Snitz Edwards saw signs for lodging out West that Irish, Indians, and Jews were allowed but not actors. It might be B.S. seeing as how there's no source listed, but it sounds believable to me.

It seems to me that actors in the early days were more likely to have a kind of inner strength to go down the path they did compared to actors now. Those kinds of professions have always attracted a lot of arrogant and self-important people, but it seems like it was harder then to cordon yourself off from the rest of society unless you made it big.
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>I never approved of talkies. Silent movies were well on their way to developing an entirely new art form. It was not just pantomime, but something wonderfully expressive.
None

I'm beginning to agree with Lillian Gish. The more silents I watch the fonder I grow of them to the point that modern films don't hold my attention. In preparation for The Irishman I've been revisiting some of Scorsese's crime films like Goodfellas and Casino which makes me want to fall asleep. There's something the silents have that modern movies don't and the farther back I go the more spiritually rewarded I feel.
At least your waifu can't put out new content.
>>49815
I always got the impression that she thought talkies were a step down from the silents but still could appreciate them.
>close-ups of people's feet.
I agree with this as far as relatively more contemporary movies go but not necessarily for talkies in general. I think the later silents and early talkies were really the peak of camerawork in movies. They were less spartan in their cinematography than earlier silents, but their simplicity relative to later movies made the closeups and moving-camera shots stand out much more.

While there are later movies I find just as entertaining as those from the silent era (and maybe even more so), I consider a properly-done silent movie the purest form of movie there is. While it's possible to shoot in sound following a similar philosophy that the silents did, most sound movies seem to put too much emphasis on the dialogue to help carry the story.

I also find their more modular nature appealing; you could easily alter the presentation of a movie and, with a bit of creative editing, completely change plot elements if you wanted to in a way that would be much harder to do with your average sound film. Just look at how the story line of Metropolis got butchered when it originally came to America.
>>49815
>There's something the silents have that modern movies don't and the farther back I go the more spiritually rewarded I feel.
Perhaps silent films require, or allow for, greater imagination from the viewer. So you are able to be more fully engaged and engrossed.
>>49815
Early talkies were good as they were like silent films with audio but after that Hollywood went to total shit with the occasional good film.
>>49868
>
https://web.archive.org/web/20191108123206/https://www.awn.com/animationworld/state-visual-narrative-film-and-comics
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>>49944
>comprehension
>>49815
>I don't care for modern films–all crashing cars and close-ups of people's feet.
>crashing cars and close-ups of people's feet.
Tarantino eternally BTFO
>>49944
>not including that you also have to imagine how everything interacts with everything else
Films can be nice because they can ground the expectations of reality that a viewer has and present life as-is, as opposed to what a reader imagines life to be.
You can’t just “imagine” what boxing is like if you’ve never seen or heard of it before. Even a detailed description won’t do as the amount of detail needed to properly describe it would dwarf whatever scene you’re trying to depict and ruin the flow of the story.
>>49815
It's a shame that silent cinema has fallen into oblivion, not only as an active form of expression, but also as a form of art which can be viewed without the historical context. While I agree that early silents do offer a glimpse into the world of yesterdays film making and society, they also offer a completely different film experience than talkies, both artistically and technically.

The lack of sound was not a disadvantage to film makers. On a commercial level, talkies have always been much more efficient and easier to make, but silents offered a greater deal of artistic freedom and creativity simply because they were forced to express emotions through other ways than dialogue. Body language, facial expressions, soft lenses, moving cameras, high contrast and expressionistic color use were all offspring from a time when emotion could be conveyed in more than one way. This gave the actors and directors a plate of colors with which to paint the mood of the film; pantomime at its finest.

How did this affect the actors? Today a lot of people consider the actors of yesterday were too over dramatic and unrealistic. While that might be the case, one has to realize that what they were trying to convey was not the reaction of a human being on a strictly physical level, but rather on a mental level. In real life an individual might not react as strongly physically when confronted with bad news, but on the inside complete chaos might usurp the otherwise rational mind. This is also related to the idea of silents being more than just mere vehicles of story telling, they become the story the film wishes to tell.

Silents are more romantic and imaginary than talkies. Seeing as silent film is restricted to moving pictures, they become more abstract than their talking counterparts and thus develop a more Schopenhaur-esque approach to art. To define their beauty, fascination and allure with one word: magical. The art of matinée, adventure, romance and tragedy all belong to the silent film as an artistic movement. With the introduction of talkies; the idea of realism became norm and vanquished the beauty of the silents.

I think we all wish to escape reality at one point or another, and silents offer a world far more abstract than the one we currently linger in. That's why you tend to find anons on these image boards who slowly gravitate away from modern films and move towards the silents.
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>>35023
If she was such a talented actress with such a lengthy career why didn't she win any Oscars from the Academy Awards?
>>50688
Most of her most well-known movies were from before the Oscars were even around.
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>wasting all this effort on this shitty board
>>49868
I don't know about requiring imagination from the viewer but silent films can have very elaborate stage sets and production values compared to the movies of today. I don't know a lot about them but I've seen some that were real eye candy.
>>50819
>compllain about zero effort posts
>someone makes effortposts
>complain about it
Hello board hapa
>>50819
This Norm fella seems like a real JERK.
>>51744
They actually let that set fall apart for several years until it had crumbled enough to be able to pay for it to be torn down.

The look of it ended up serving as the inspiration for the courtyard of the Hollywood and Highland Center. Pic related.
>>51780
If he was Zach, then I think he'd be going off about how much he hates D.W. Griffith or something.
>>51780
The board hapa can't stand based Norm.
Box office poison and stuff.
>>51787
>Zach is just anyone who doesn't like something I like
Hello board hapa
>>51787
which one of those carved deities is moloch?
>>51944
Got a single shred of proof that anybody even worships muh moloch? There are a bunch of old semitic gods that encouraged sacrifice so why the obsession with that particular one?
>>51950
It is but a question which you have decided to deflect…. interesting.
>>51951
Mine was a genuine question too. There are a few semitic "blood gods" so I have never understood the infatuation with this one.

The baphomet shit is more valid, like we actually have footage of them hosting weird ceremonies around that. What I there for Moloch besides the email from Hillary about sacrificing chickens?
>>51955
Let's face the facts. They are pagan.
>>51955
Part two. If you can decipher this retarded shit then you will understand what the European elite are into. Protip: it isn't semitic blood gods.
>>51938
No, doofus, Zach has ripped on D.W. Griffith before. The same goes for John Carpenter, and I don't really even like his movies.
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>>35023
Is True Heart Susie her finest kino?
Hey OP,
If she was so great how come she never got Harvested?
>>53246
Harvey Weinstein??? He was born decades after the height of Lillian Gish's career
>>53706
So she never had the chance to reach true fame and glory. Simply a never was.
>>53713
Gish got her start in the pictures thanks to DW Griffith and the short films he made at Biograph. After The Birth of a Nation Gish would make about ten more films with Griffith but some of those are lost. By the mid 1920s she stopped working with Griffith and made movies with other directors, then after the silent era she didn't act in too many movies but did a lot of television work. It's speculated that Gish once had a romantic relationship with Griffith but it's rumor and hearsay. Gish had great respect for DW Griffith and even into her old age after Griffith had passed, Gish would always refer to him as "Mr Griffith" and never by his first name.
>>53245
One of her best. When it comes to Griffith you usually see discussions about BoaN and Intolerance but not what came after. True Heart Susie is among the finest tragic comedies of the silent era. You grow fond of the lovey-dovey relationship between Harron and Gish, the sacrifices Gish makes so that Harron can attend college, when Harron comes back from college he gets caught up with women who use paint, powder and makeup, scantily clad clothes to bait young men. But these promiscuous women can't even cook properly and Harron is duped into a sham marriage. Griffith pokes fun at Susie's naivety and her tendency to dream, almost becomes a crazy cat lady near the end but everything gets wrapped up in a neat little bow at the end it's like a contrived Hollywood happy ending.

Is real life interesting? That's what Griffith asks at the beginning and he kind of misleads you through the movie but it's some funny stuff.
>>54064
what did those eyes see?
>>55213
A land of кино for you and me!
>>35023
Gish, wish, smish, dish, pish, fish…

Should've change her last name to something else like all the other Hollywood actors were doing and she could've gotten more roles, had her name prominently featured all over posters and advertisements, she could've been one ofthe biggest stars but nobody talks about her now, everyone remembers the Hepburns, Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland, Ingrid Bergman
>>56670
>Should've change her last name to something else like all the other Hollywood actors were doing and she could've gotten more roles, had her name prominently featured all over posters and advertisements, she could've been one ofthe biggest stars but nobody talks about her now, everyone remembers the Hepburns, Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland, Ingrid Bergman
From what I understand, it was a matter of pride for her. I thought she said she figured the name was good enough for her mother and so was good enough for her.
>>56689
Good work anon, you have very extensive knowledge of Lillian Gish. Keep it up, proud of you
>>56670
Those are remembered because they were more recent. It's a matter of accessibility. Besides some of those didn't change their names either, like Bergman for example.
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It's not over yet
>>59762
What a cutey.
>>59767
no u
None
>>59981
>no u
what did you mean by that?
>>60181
>A happy life is one spent in learning, earning, and yearning.
Lillian Gish will live on! Good to see the thread migration from vch to julay went over smoothly. I'm not completely sold on 8kun yet. But I do like that one anon posted that they just watched D.W. Griffith's Intolerance for the first time and they were impressed with it so that gives me hope for the future. Is it time to retire Gish posting? Is my work done?

https://8kun.top/tv/res/2111674.html
>Gishdup shilling 8koon
no
>>61138
Looks a bit like Stone there
>>61187
nah i disagree!
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I bought a book at a used bookstore and thought of you guys, I really wish it had way more Fish but she wrote the introduction and there is one photo of her. I might scan it depending on the quality of this photo, also I've got more stars if anyone wants it's all from the 20s
>>61859
Yeah post screen queens and any interviews if you don't mind
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Here's a list I'll bump the thread as time goes on though, I'll stick to qts and nice shots. I'm sorry the are flipped wrongly
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>>61859 Good work anon, thanks for sharing. I wonder what Lillian Gish's career would have been like had she remained with Griffith through the remainder of the silent era, but I know she was getting a little upset with being typecast as a virgin damsel in distress When I opened this thread the Griffith banner greeted me at the top of the page. #blessed >>61947 >#6, Richard Barthlemess in Tol'able David Do you have pictures of that? He was a beautiful man and the silent Tol'able David is one of my favorites
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Is this the earliest known photo taken of Lillian and Dorothy Gish? This was taken around 1903 so Lillian would have been at least 10 and Dorothy would have been 4 or 5
>>63929 >that little cutie on the right
>>35329 >>35341 >D.W. Griffith saw Lillian Gish using her smile gesture with her fingers and decided to incorporate it into the filming. When exactly did Griffith see Gish do this gesture??
>>64672 Who hit her with an ugly stick?
>>64678 How's it feel to have terrible taste in waifus?
>>64679 You would know so tell me, quasimodo lover
>>64684 How rude!!

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