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Connecting to player characters Anonymous 02/08/2020 (Sat) 02:22:28 No.14585 [Reply] [Last]
My favorite kind of player character is someone you can connect with, not in the storyfag "I can relate to this character" way but in the sense that your actions as the player fit and interpret whoever you're playing as. Doomguy is almost a player avatar but still shows a personality which fits what you're doing, and Mario is vague enough that you can do all kinds of shit in his games and still be in character. This gets harder when games aim for more complex characters and storylines, and this connection usually gets thrown out the window pretty fast in favor of non-vidya storyfag shit. I guess there's also games where the player character is an ideal you connect with by getting gud, like Dante or Ryu from Ninja Gaiden. Have you played any games which handle this player connection/interpretation thing well even with more complex characters? The big one that's coming to my mind now is Deus Ex and I wouldn't call J.C. Denton nuanced, fun as he is.
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Do you guys feel that Spec Ops did a decent job at trying to give the player PTSD because I didn't really get particularly disturbed by it, probably because I wouldn't have my mind broken by it. Its most impactful moments like the White Phosphorus scene was constructed as a painting and it was literally turned into one at the end, so it all felt extremely forced.
>>14952 >mother and child.jpg >not "oyakodon.jpg"
>>14952 >forced It was exactly that. The whole shtick might have worked, if the player had actually had the option to do something else. Quitting a piece of entertainment media the audience (presumably) paid for half way through is not an actual option. Pretending that is like claiming movies are interactive because the viewer can stop watching anytime and pretend rest of the movie never happens. At the very least they could have added a gameplay feature for giving up. Something like in one of those Far Crys were you get the good ending right from the start if you just wait a moment like you are asked to. Only moment in Spec Ops that really got a emotional reaction out of me was the part where a raghead jumps out in a tight corridor during a firefight, and the game doesn't even acknowledge it if you jump the gun and shoot the bint. I imagine the white phosphorus would have had an impact on me if I had chosen to do it because I couldn't get gud enough to fight off the whole army, instead of being scripted into it.
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>>14585 Been playing Deus Ex again and really relating to JC, you can see alot of things in him that you don't with other characters, his autism for one.
>>14952 >>14954 >>14986 The white phosphorus scene is the laziest part of the game and makes people assume the rest is that blunt and lazy. The worst part is that even if you could fight through it you'd still fuck over the civilians they were protecting and the game would continue almost exactly the same from there. Also notice how this is the forced choice everyone fixates on and complains about, not the more destructive act of helping the CIA destroy the city's water supply later on. It's because the game pretends to give you a choice like it does many times before and afterwards, but arbitrarily bullshits you out of it in a very unconvincing way. It's ultimately a bad level design and optimization problem (apparently the devs had severe performance problems with that firefight on consoles) that they got uppity about post-release, which sticks out when it does so much well.

Sketchful.io Anonymous 01/04/2020 (Sat) 00:06:55 No.10020 [Reply] [Last]
https://sketchful.io/#GX0dy7GaOV GET IN, NIGGERS! FRIDAY NIGHT SKETCHFULIO! >What is Sketchful.io? It's like pictionary but online >Do I need to be a drawfag? I'll have you know the majority of players aren't drawfags and as long as you don't have arthritis, you'll be fine. >What are the prompts? Vidya only >Which browsers work with this? Chrome and all its forks work, Firefox and most of its forks do not. Presumably works with IE and other shit. Play it safe and use slimjet. >Can I use my tablet?

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>>14568 Oh, forgot the obligatory GET IN HERE, NIGGERS!
>>14569 YES I'll be in in a minute.
We're having one more game GET IN NIGGERS
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SPECIAL NEW SUNDAY GAME STARTING IN TWO HOURS Now even the Europoors can join in! Be ready for it! I will post the room code when it is time.
>>14897 Here it is,a not not a moment too soon https://sketchful.io/#jI4ktaQZQw

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General Cyclical Gaming Night[s]? What's your opinion? Anonymous 01/31/2020 (Fri) 01:24:27 No.13509 [Reply] [Last]
Coming from >>>/meta/3131 I was thinking it might be a better idea to keep a single cyclical general gaming night thread people can join to games they want to play, or not, as well as host that way there's more room for other quality threads. BO thought I should ask your general consensus, and his idea >>>/meta/3136 was one I did not think of. So what are your thoughts?
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>>14248 >spartan He is from KC aka krautchan you dumb nigger
>>14421 >/animu/ what?
>>14628 Alt anime board from 8/a/. But not they're 8kunt/a/ and 8/a/ is smug/a/.
>>14628 >not now
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Good video game videos and articles Anonymous 02/05/2020 (Wed) 22:18:03 No.14273 [Reply] [Last]
ITT we post actual good videos and articles about video games and try to sift through the mountains of """content""" that has ruined most people's ability to find something that isn't a soy grimace or a nu-Let's Play. No e-celebs, no surrogate friends - just good examples of people discussing the history, technology, and/or design of video games. Popular categories: >old school Let's Plays where the LPer actually knows the game and informs the viewer about its history as the series progresses >technical breakdowns/history videos >testimony by people who actually worked on famous games >game analysis videos that do more than parrot "ludonarrative dissonance" and which aren't just background noise The main reason I wanted to make this thread is to preserve stuff like this, because no-one ever notices when small channels delete their videos. I was reading an old archived thread from 8chan /v/, and one of the anons there had made a couple of analysis videos. On a whim, I decided to rewatch them only to discover that he had unlisted the videos. Fortunately, I had the direct links he posted in the thread, which can be accessed through Invidious and downloaded. I'll try to convert them to reasonable webms at some point, but for now just have the links: The N games and N++: https://invidio.us/watch?v=2wVVqtlqxX8 System Shock vs System Shock 2: https://invidio.us/watch?v=3V2rjSRqIB4 I'll include some other submissions below so as to avoid cluttering the OP.
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>>14304 Like I said, misunderstood. https://invidio.us/search?q=Roller+coaster+tycoon+development Need to restore a computer to show you an entire secret devlog Intelligent Systems has still left all this time in their original website for panepon: https://www.intsys.co.jp/game/panepon/ You can still scrape the entire site and find it.
Emily Rogers used to do a lot of great analysis about the industry. I wonder what ever happened to her. This article in particular really impressed me: https://web.archive.org/web/20140110050636/http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/07/02/the-rise-of-costs-the-fall-of-gaming/
>>14308 >Emily Rogers https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64 Alive, well, and controlled. gameliberty.club account when?
>>14273 >Amiga Power >Digitiser I miss the 90s.
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>>14273 Princess Maker 2 and Riviera playthroughs on LParchive. They're pretty funny and still cover the main plot points. https://lparchive.org/Princess-Maker-2/ https://lparchive.org/Riviera-The-Promised-Land/ Also the massive Mass Effect retrospective by Shamus Young. Lists all the problems with the series. https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27792

GOOD Spiritual Successors - Modern Day Ripoffs to Dormant Series Anonymous 01/28/2020 (Tue) 21:24:27 No.13172 [Reply] [Last]
Basically, I got curious and wanted to know if there's more games that copy practically everything about IPs that haven't seen a sequel and likely never will in a long time, except they're made by indie developers with a completely new IP that is a clear homage to the original. I'll give you some examples of what I mean: Pizza Tower, which is a Wario Land clone without lives and an emphasis on speed and getting a high rank Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, obviously Castlevania FAST RMX, F-Zero without the comic book characters Do you know of any more of them that are actually passable-to-great?
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>>14125 >>14126 Playing it a bit more, it's growing on me but I'm going to drop it and wait for an expansion pack or something because the game is fairly wonky and buggy. The most obvious example is the Mummy type enemies who have an attack that cannot be reliably parried.
>>14132 Also something the game really does poorly is enemy animations and weight, like I've mentioned before. I've stumbled upon scorpion type enemies that barely animate but somehow take 3/4ths of your health with their attacks. Another example is parrying using the spear and then immediately counterattacking, the animation jumps a few frames.
>>14132 >>14133 That's a shame. I'd have loved for even a half-decent Dark Messiah clone, but it seems >Unity and >Muh Soulslike Experience have ruined yet another potentially promising project.
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>>14101 Yeah I'm the anon you're replying to, and I regret not doing more research and bringing it up in this thread at all after playing it for an hour, too. Although I was half-baiting to see if someone would bring up a Dark Messiah-like clone or mod I've never heard of, I'm fucking jonesing for it I'll self exile myself to Detroit now.
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Contra is dead. But this game has me pretty excited. It came out this summer and I can't believe this is the first I've heard of it. Aspect ratio is kind of retarded though.

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The Failure of a Franchise that Watch Dogs is Anonymous 02/04/2020 (Tue) 03:20:47 No.14066 [Reply] [Last]
About eight years ago, Watch Dogs was presented to the world as a revolutionary title to lead the charge into the 8th generation, demonstrating both graphical excellence and levels of environmental interactivity not seen in AAA productions. It's eventual release in 2014 showed that it was anything but, having what should have been the most significant backlash that generation had it not been for multiple other studios vying for the prestigious title of Most Synonymous with Elephant Shit. So, Watch Dogs isn't the absolute worst as much as it should be, but despite all things it has not only gotten one sequel but TWO of them with their most recent one positioning itself similarly to the first as that same torchbearer to lead in the next PlayStation and Xbox into another seven or so years of mediocrity. Why is Ubisoft so committed to developing this trashfire further? It failed as a GTA V competitor, it will fail as a Cyberpunk 2077 competitor, it's never seemed to be that popular among normalfags, it's arguably the game is the one that set the sour tone for the current consoles, so why are they so insistent to this idea when they refuse to do anything interesting with it?
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>>14178 Isn't that a thing a ton of AAA companies do?
>>14066 who cares, open world games are garbage for normalfags
Speaking of GTA rip offs, Dan Houser left Rockstar, so now newer GTAs will be even more shit.
>>14071 >an old grandma murdering bong cops. Aren't both games set in the US? >>14124 People who play ubisoft games don't have the mental capacity for actual game mechanics.
>>14244 >Aren't both games set in the US? There releasing a new one that is set in London called, and I'm serious, Watch Dogs Legion. A hacking game not even inspired by WarGames and similar movies, but Internet hacktivism. >People who play ubisoft games don't have the mental capacity for actual game mechanics. I always see this as an excuse, but I need to see the numbers. I think that the success of the iPhone caused a seismic shift in business philosophy because the entire design of the phone was about changing functionality into accessibility, and with widespread user adoption comes mobile developers who design around the limitations imposed on them and eventually comes the second generation of developers about 10 years later that fail to realize this form of development was based around necessity and are now seeking to apply it in every way they can. For phones, its more or less fine because they've taken on a meaning of convenience and it's fine having a distracting game to occupy yourself for all of five minutes, but mobile game design then became conflated with console and PC game design as a result of these second generation developers. Of course there's going to be a group of people who want to zone out, but Ubisoft is making an error in judgement in believing that the market for those who want to be even slightly challenged is smaller.

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Simulation racing games Anonymous 01/25/2020 (Sat) 12:13:51 No.12809 [Reply] [Last]
I want to get into sim racing to improve my sense of driving and car handling. From a quick search the most current sim racers seem to be Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, rFactor 2, Iracing and Raceroom. If any of you are into sim racing, what racing games can you recommend for realistic physics? Some other questions I have: >Is a console controller with analog triggers a decent enough starting point if you can't budget for a wheel? >Can you point to any online resources to get started with sim racing? >How is the AI for single player? >Would you recommend any community made content for the games? >Is there DLC that you would consider necessary or good to have? >Do the games also handle non-paved roads well or should I consider a rally sim for that? If so any recommendations?
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>>12809 >Is a console controller with analog triggers a decent enough starting point if you can't budget for a wheel? The controller is better than nothing but you should invest in a wheel with good feedback and a stick/pedal combination when you can. >Can you point to any online resources to get started with sim racing? I don't know of any off the top of my head but iRacing has a pretty autistic community. Figure out where they hang around it's probably reddit >How is the AI for single player? AI is typically shit and always follows the best racing line. They don't drive like real people meaning they won't do bump and run or adjust to block you >Would you recommend any community made content for the games? I don't use any aside from paint schemes >Is there DLC that you would consider necessary or good to have? If you play iRacing you'll need to pay extra for certain courses and cars. Buy the ones in the the series you want to git gud at. >Do the games also handle non-paved roads well or should I consider a rally sim for that? If so any recommendations? iRacing handles dirt tracks pretty well and I think further improvements are coming. Dirt is hard to emulate so I don't think it'll ever be perfect. >From a quick search the most current sim racers seem to be Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, rFactor 2, Iracing and Raceroom. iRacing is the best racing game I've ever played. The tracks are as close to the real thing as possible because they use lasers to map them. No idea if the others are any good because I haven't played them. Before getting into iRacing the last Sim racer I'd played was GT3. I don't suggest any GT game past that one. My friend plays Forza and it's supposed to be pretty good but you'll be stuck on Xbox or Windows 10. If you're looking to become an actual race car driver in the future just stick to iRacing. That's where all the real drivers are and they're moving up players to actual cars now. Several series sponsor drivers on there and you can win good money if you manage to work up to the higher ranks. It is a bit costly though and I wouldn't suggest playing it without

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>>12815 1. Prove it 2. If you can prove it tell me how to get into it
>>12817 >1. Prove it I'm not doxing myself, sorry. I drive Open wheeled modified cars for my own team. I don't do it full time anymore because of various injuries. Before I got hurt I drove in two dirt divisions and did enduro. Before I moved into cars I drove go-karts. I've been riding motorcycles since I was four years old and driving manual/cars since I was 6 years old. >2. If you can prove it tell me how to get into it What do you want to drive and how old are you now? That will make a big difference. A general answer would be getting involved with a race shop. You don't have to be good at working cars just sleeping the floors and hauling tires around will get your foot in the door. If you want to jump straight into driving I suggest getting into go-kart racing starting out. No matter what kind of racing you start with expect to be spending most of your money on it. That's why iRacing is so popular even with professionals because it allows you to train without having to sink all the money into tires/gas/engines/staff/track fees etc.
>>12829 I forgot; if you don't want to start with karts (which I highly suggest you do) look into joining what is called a U-car division. If you're in EU/UK they have a similar division but the name escapes me at this time. It's basically a division made up of cheap front wheel drive cars like Honda Civics. They're probably the cheapest actual car you can start in. You're still going to dump thousands into getting started and thousands into keeping it going. If you are going to build and drive the car expect to spend 6 days a week in the shop, 1 day racing, and if you're lucky you'll get it back home without damaging something major. You're going to go broke keeping tires on the thing no matter what you do. You can use the same set of tires multiple times but don't expect to run anywhere but last place.
>>12829 I've never heard of iRacing before, but it looks amazing!

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S4 MAX Anonymous 01/03/2020 (Fri) 22:10:04 No.9989 [Reply] [Last]
Gamenight: S4Max Edition We were playing and I totally forgot to let you fags know. Feel free to hop in if you want. Download & Mirror: https://mega.nz/#!oDxmTSRA!7K4gTZ_auACu8-aUmDz3h0JFLM1heG2Fbn8peqlZoTQ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1djiC4DQ-yrCRN4tscIhbbhJpzuNy0zfd/view Start time: NOW ROOM NAME Swordfags get the GASGASGAS password benis Saturday and Sunday we'll be running during the day, but I may have to switch off with somebody else. The S4Max community runs its own server so you guys should be fine without me. I'll make sure there is someone who can make the room if I'm out.

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We are still playing, feel free to join if anyone wants. Same pass and room.
GAME Up Name is Sword users get the bog password is benis Just in case anyone was lurking these threads.
We were thinking of doing monthly game nights and are having another one tonight. If anyone it up to it then feel free to join us. Name: 8coon Pass: UUUU
This game looks rad. Does it work on Linux or Mac?
>>14160 Pretty sure it's only Windows, but you might be able to run it through WINE. Pretty much all the players are set up on 8kun unfortunately, so you'll likely get a better answer from there.

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Bad Implementations of Otherwise Good Mechanics Anonymous 01/30/2020 (Thu) 20:00:01 No.13455 [Reply] [Last]
I don't think that most mechanics that are employed by games are inherently bad, but it is apparent that most developers have little concern as to how functional they are while in game. By implementation, I don't mean that the mechanic itself is flawed specifically or in a general sense, but the method of interacting with it or how its used or unused by developers. Hunger systems being nothing but burden, broken control schemes, anything that makes the game frustrating because you understand that it has the potential to be good. A more specific example would be Starfox Zero, which uses both the television and Wii U gamepad to play with the television showing a third person view and the gamepad showing a first person view. The television reticle is offset for the purpose of forcing players to look at the gamepad to aim instead of adjusting missions in a way that it compliments both camera angles. It's purposefully broken in an attempt to create something that would otherwise be difficult to accomplish without a second screen.
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>>14000 Just to clarify, it wasn't that the 3v3 was bad because of the changes they made, the the changes they made were bad BECAUSE they made it 3v3; built the entire game around it and destroyed the game as a result- the game limps on only because of all the fags who keep buying all the DLC for it If you want another example of what I mean then look no further than BlazBlue Cross Tag; they completely casualized all the characters to make them work in a 2v2 instead of keeping all their movesets and balancing from there.
Body part damage in any game except monster hunter and mechwarrior. Dark souls 3 are the worst at this. The only body part damage is damage to the ass of Dancer(one of bosses), if you hit her ass it wiggles around. It is a good ass, but such fucking misuse of a mechanic. But than again, every boss is a bug humanoid so this would be worthless. At least sometimes they have headshots for some reason. >>13998 Game has 4 worlds+hub. If you die in human form in one world 10 times the world will shift to slightly different and supposedly harder mode. With some exclusive stuff in it. It meant that to get some stuff you need to kill yourself over and over. It was intended to make game harder for bad players, but in the end it did nothing except being somewhat obscure mechanic. Technically something similar was in planescape torment. If you die, in the end of the game a shadow will await you for each death. This could be a cool inclusion in ending or just populating the world of shadows of you, like in roguelikes with morgue where you can meet your previous incarnations/their graves.
>>14004 >The only body part damage is damage to the ass of Dancer(one of bosses), if you hit her ass it wiggles around. It is a good ass, but such fucking misuse of a mechanic. It's funny, not meant to be taken seriously.
>>14004 >The only body part damage is damage to the ass of Dancer Right. Except a dozen of other examples of body part damage in that game. Curse-Rotted Greatwood, High Lord Wolnir, and Deacons of the Deep require weakpoint destruction to beat, Yhorm the Giant takes normal damage if you shoot him in the face, Lothric can be hit when he's on Lorian's back, Stray Demon's legs can be destroyed, headshots deal extra damage, melee hits on the heads of some large creatures deal extra damage, Harald Legion knights take extra damage from plunging attacks, Salyvahn's beasts drop to the ground and start flailing around if you stun&riposte them. >Body part damage in any game except monster hunter and mechwarrior I know at least Dragon's Dogma and I'm not even into action games.
>>14026 >Deacons of the Deep require weakpoint destruction to beat Its just a bunch of zombies with zombie pope spawning later. Wolnir is just a boss with 3 completely separate parts, you need to attack 2 on the only available parts to kill him. Great fucking implementation, monster has 2 hands instead of one, attack them! Its totally exactly the same and good as in monster hunter where every fucking enemy has 10 different body parts with different damage resistances on them, plus a head which is often weak to stuns, plus every body part has stagger value, plus most body parts can break and change resistances plus you often can cut tails, break spikes/horns to lower danger of enemy plus most enemies have enrages state with different resistances and sometimes a way to break them out of it, plus sharpness of the weapon and hardness of the part will determine if weapon will simply bounce off, plus some monsters can grow parts back/cover themselves in armor. Compare these 2 charts and say that they are exactly the same and just as good. >Salyvahn's beasts drop to the ground and start flailing around if you stun&riposte them >Harald Legion knights take extra damage from plunging attacks >body part damage

EDF 5 Thread Anonymous 12/19/2019 (Thu) 07:49:42 No.8350 [Reply] [Last]
Room is up piratefags only :
>Room name
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If you don't have EDF 5 here's the magnet :
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>>8437 Yeah you need steam to be installed
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Setting up a room >Room name : REMOVE BUGS >Difficulty : Hardest >Piratefag only TIME TO UNLEASH LEAD AND STEEL TO THESE ALIEN
>>8529 >forgot the passcode it's Brenton
I'm opening a room. We're almost at the end on this ranger challenge, but feel free to join. >vdf >piratefag >mission 107+ >Inferno >RANGER CHALLENGE! >pass is rage

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